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Women's Football / FA women's refs unprepared & underpaid?
« on: May 28, 2017, 06:54:34 AM »
Chelsea's manager Emma Hayes has criticized the FA's approach to refereeing in the women's game. Even managed to get herself a spot on the Today programme, the home of grumbling :)


"We have referees that are coming into the women's game with zero training and development. They have no meet-ups at the beginning of the season, they have no access to clips so they can't evaluate their performances and they are paid around half what they would be if they were reffing non-league games. ...

"Points for referees [in the men's game] mean promotion or demotion, but in the women's game they get zero marks so there is no real incentive. In addition, there is no understanding that there are massive style differences in the women's game."

Hayes also claims that the refereeing pool for FA women's games is 500-600 and should be reduced.

Well articulated, presuming it's all accurate. It follows from similar complaints by her and London Bees' Dave Edmondson in 2016.

So, what would be the first change you would make? The FA have responded by bigging up their new strategy, launched in March 2017, which includes the creation of a women's refereeing manager. If that was you, what would you do?

Officials need more backing from the FA, says Emma Hayes
(pic: Katie Chan, cc-by-sa)

Girl's Centres of Excellence / RTC trials 2017
« on: May 27, 2017, 02:08:17 AM »
Possibly of interest – the dates for trials for many clubs' RTCs from 1 June–29 June.

These are the first to take place:

The Regional Talent Clubs (RTC’s) have announced a series of trial dates for players to attend. [...]

Arsenal Ladies FC
Trials take place throughout June. To attend trials please register by Wed 7th June 2017 via

Thursday 1st June:

Birmingham City Ladies FC
Open Trial
U10, U12, U14 & U16
Location: Redditch United FC, TRICO Stadium, Bromsgrove Rd, Redditch B97 4RN
To register email

Doncaster Belles Girls RTC
U10 & U12 at 5pm - 7pm
U14 & U16 at 6.30pm – 8.30pm
Location: Sheffield Hallam Sports Park, S9 1UA

Saturday 3rd June:

Everton Ladies RTC
U10 from 1pm to 2.30pm
U14 from 3.30pm to 5pm
Location: USM Finch Farm, Halewood, Liverpool L26 3UE

Leicester City Girls FC
(Open Trials)
U10 and U12 from 10am to 12.30pm
U14 and U16 from 12pm to 2.30pm
Location: Judgemeadow Community College, Marydene Drive, Leicester, LE5 6HP
For more information contact or

Southampton FC Women’s & Girls’
U14 from 9.30am to 2pm
U16 from 2.30pm to 7pm
Location: Test Park, Southampton
Players must register online by 26th May – Click here.

Continues on with other clubs' dates in the rest of June.

Women's Football / Man C v Chelsea 25 May 2017
« on: May 24, 2017, 10:22:48 AM »

Manchester City‏ @ManCity  May 22
It's with great sadness we hear of the terrible events at the Arena. Our hearts go out to all affected and to our city's emergency services.

The club has released a statement in the past hour too, with players also commenting on the tragedy.

There hasn't been any change in the status of Thursday's match, which is likely to decide the WSL Spring Series winners.

Man City v Chelsea is scheduled for 7pm at the Academy Stadium, to be broadcast by BT Sport and radio 5Live or Sports Extra.

The home team got a 5-1 win over Yeovil on Sunday, with Carli Lloyd sent off. Chelsea will come into this game off a 7-0 victory at Sunderland. In the clubs' previous meeting, Man City beat Chelsea 2-0 (video on Youtube/FATV).

Women's Football / Euro 2017 build-up
« on: May 20, 2017, 09:23:01 AM »
The thread for any pre-tournament international matches, news, opinions and bust-ups prior to Euro 2017 in the Netherlands. The finals begin on Sunday 16 July and will be the biggest Women's European Championship to date.

A reminder of the teams and their groups:

Group A: Netherlands (hosts), Norway, Denmark, Belgium
Group B: Germany (holders), Sweden, Italy, Russia
Group C: France, Iceland, Austria, Switzerland
Group D: England, Scotland, Spain, Portugal

England gather on 5 June for training camp, before their games begin in Switzerland with an away friendly. In July they'll face Denmark of Group A, a few weeks before England's tournament opener against Scotland on 19 July. For Anna Signeul's Scotland team, three opponents are lined up as Euro 2017 preparation – games at home to non-qualifiers Romania and Ireland, and away to Sweden.

Scotland v Romania - Fri 9 June, 7pm, Falkirk Stadium
Switzerland v England - Sat 10 June, 5.15pm BST, Tissot Arena in Biel
Sweden v Scotland - Tue 13 June, 5pm BST, Myresjöhus Arena in Växjö
Denmark v England - Sat 1 July, 6pm BST, Gladsaxe Stadium, Copenhagen
Scotland v Ireland - Fri 7 July, details TBC

Looking at how a few other countries will prepare for the championships, hosts the Netherlands are playing Japan and Austria, both in June. Germany are meeting in mid-June and have one game planned as it stands – against Brazil on 4 July at the Hardtwaldstadion in Sandhausen. France will start their warm-up games later, against Belgium (7 Jul) and Norway (11 Jul).

Switzerland and Sweden will test the home nations
(pic: Anders Henrikson, cc-by)

European Women's Football / 2017 Europe women's football
« on: May 07, 2017, 08:02:16 AM »
Thread for any club or international news/videos/interviews/shout-outs, etc, in European countries in 2017.

The club season in Germany is coming to a close - the Frauen-Bundesliga can be followed here, including some full games


In Norway the Toppserien matches are also being uploaded in full:


Edited to add, the Swedish league, Damallsvenskan, has a very handsome offering of match vids and highlights:


The UEFA Women's U17 championship is taking place at the moment in the Czech Republic. This was the well-attended opening game, over 10,000 watching the hosts at Plzeň City Stadium:
Czech Republic v France, 2 May 2017
Full match (English commentary)

Saturday 13 May 2017
Wembley Stadium, London
Kickoff: 5.15pm

Birmingham have reached the final by beating West Brom, Arsenal and Chelsea, while Manchester City beat Reading, Bristol City and Liverpool.

The two finalists met yesterday in the WSL Spring Series – that 'preview' game is available on BBC iPlayer for a month.

The final will be televised live on BBC Two from 5pm. How the match got its strange kickoff time is a long story, but the FA seemed to choose the evening out of necessity, not preference. Also, those two teams that are involved! They're both from out of town! If the organizers want to beat the attendance of 32,900 from last year, they've got their work cut out for them.

Chelsea lift the cup in 2015
(pic: fourthandfifteen, cc-by)

Players / 2017 BBC Women's Footballer of the Year
« on: May 03, 2017, 09:27:06 AM »
Five players have been shortlisted for the BBC Women's Footballer of the Year 2017 award and voting is now open.

Click on the nominees' names below to view their full player profiles:

    Melanie Behringer (Bayern Munich and former Germany midfielder)
    Ada Hegerberg (Olympique Lyonnais and Norway striker)
    Hedvig Lindahl (Chelsea and Sweden goalkeeper)
    Marta (Orlando Pride and Brazil forward)
    Christine Sinclair (Portland Thorns and Canada forward)

You can vote for your favourite online until 08:00 GMT/09:00 BST on Monday, 15 May.

Voting is on that page,, also videos and interviews. Former winners are Asisat Oshoala (2015) and Kim Little (2016).

World Women's Football / 2017 world women's football
« on: May 01, 2017, 10:27:49 AM »
Megathread for any reports/news/videos/confusion from 2017 for international or club football, in the countries of CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, CAF, AFC, OFC, OMG, and other acronyms.

Starting with Brazil, who are planning a kind of world tour from June to August:

Brazil to play Spain (10 June), Iceland (13 June) and Germany (4 July)

USA, Australia, Brazil and Japan friendly tournament reported to take place from July 27 to August 3

Brazil hosting Canada in 2016
(Agência Brasil Fotografias, cc-by)

Women's Football / New WSL1 team - poll
« on: April 24, 2017, 10:15:05 AM »
The bad news about the demise of Notts County Ladies has caused a horrible situation for their players and staff, who we can only hope will get plenty of help in continuing their careers.

Notts Ladies in the Continental Cup final, 2015
(pic: joshjdss, cc-by)

The loss of Notts also leaves the league uneven. WSL 1 has 9 teams now, and WSL 2 has 10 teams, rising to 11 later this year if Blackburn or Tottenham are approved to join.

So, what would you do? You can vote at the top of this thread. Note: this is what you'd prefer – not predicting what the FA will do, which is a mug's game at the best of times! But if you wanna discuss that downthread, go for it. A team could be bumped up from WSL2 to WSL1, or... well, there are other options:

a) Un-relegate Doncaster Rovers Belles. This would fly in the face of the FA's proud tradition of relegating them, but maybe it would be a nice way to make amends for screwing them over in 2013.

b) Promote Everton, who finished 3rd last year in WSL 2... but is it too much to promote 3 out of 10 teams? Especially when there was no promotion/relegation until recently.

c) Do nothing, and have the leagues at 9 and 11 teams, although the signs are that the FA want 10 and 10.

d) Other?? If you can think of it, they'll do it

e) Take the (until now) meaningless WSL 2 Spring Series of glorified friendlies, and promote the winner, once we know who that is.

All we know so far is what the FA said in their statement on Notts' closure:

"We would also like to make clear that an FA WSL licence cannot simply be transferred into another club’s name. To maintain the integrity of the league :D and in fairness to all other FA WSL and FA Women's Premier League clubs there is a rigorous :o application process :-\ to meet licence criteria."
Emoticons may not have been in the original statement

(Edit) To give them some credit, the FA have been somewhat prepared for this – having 21 possible teams did allow for the potential liquidation of one of the clubs, but they'll have to hope it doesn't happen anywhere else soon. Also, naming the England squad eighteen months before the Euros must have been influenced by Notts' problems. It would look strange to name Carly Telford, Laura Bassett, Jo Potter, or Jade Moore, if they get no playing time during the next few months.

Unfortunately for one team, it looks like the 2017/18 season will be moot, whatever happens. The 2018/19 WSL will be selected based on which franchises impress the FA, not what happens on the pitch in 2017/18.

Non WSL UK Women’s Football / 2017 England regional women's football
« on: April 22, 2017, 11:16:03 PM »
A thread for all things regional / local / teams and leagues / county FAs, etc.

Starting with a quasi-international match :D

Jersey Play At Bramall Lane Tomorrow

Sheffield United Ladies to host Jersey FA Rep Team at the ground of the League One club on Sunday 23rd April, kick-off 12pm.

Jersey FA Vice President Iain Mackenzie said; “We are delighted to announce this fixture against Sheffield Utd Football Club. This is a unique opportunity for our ladies to play in a historic stadium against quality opposition.”

Jersey FA Women’s interim Head Coaches Daniel Seviour and Jodie Botterill will be taking the team for the match against Sheffield United on Sunday.

Botterill said; “We are looking forward to the challenge of playing against Sheffield United. We are aware that they are a strong team, who have recently been promoted from their current league. It will be great experience to travel to an away fixture as preparation for the Island Games. The squad have been looking strong in training and are motivated for the fixture.”

Sheffield United Coach Lee Walshaw said; “We’re looking to climb the pyramid at this end. The ladies have played one game there this season and have done pitch walks at half-time during first-team games. There’s also a full page in the first-team’s programme at every home game.”

The Jersey FA Squad: Eve Watson, Sara Luce, Lauren Quemard, Ciara Giles, Sylvia Spinola, Michelle Bichard, Ella Brennand, Leanne Le Feuvre, Holly Muirhead, Megan Wood, Natasha Keen, Jodie Botterill, Rosie Corbett, Lara Couvert, Sophie Botterill

(She Kicks

See also Sheffield Utd Ladies match info, and ITV News report

A good story, featuring outfielder/goalkeeper Emma Clarke, from the early days of women's football:

Revealed: Britain’s first black female footballer after case of mistaken identity

A major discovery in women’s football history has revealed Britain’s first black female footballer – and she was playing in one of the sport’s earliest recorded games in the 1890s.

Women's Football / Notts Ladies abolished - out of WSL
« on: April 21, 2017, 08:30:00 PM »
The Notts County women's team had been in a precarious situation for several months, but this is all so sad:

Just heard the sad news on the radio that Notts County have withdrawn from the league, having been put into liquidation

Really gutted for the County players, staff and fans

I wonder if the FA will allow their players to find new clubs for the Spring Series, given that the transfer window has actually closed

would need to check rules, but once a team/club folds it is usually the case that players become free agents; I would imagine the FA will be keen for the England players to get a club - based on what I have heard

Arsenal fans will have to wait a little longer to see their stars in action after today's shock announcement....

Notts take on Chelsea in the 2015 cup final
(@cfcunofficial, cc-by-sa)

Seems like it's often the way that a club would save its men's team, and give the women a low priority.

Even basic politeness and decency didn't occur to the club's owners, bunch of cowards:

Notts County have provoked anger by announcing that their ladies team will fold just two days before the start of the Women’s Super League season.

While there has been some uncertainty about the club’s finances, the timing of the announcement was unexpected, with County due to start their campaign on Sunday against Arsenal.

The club do not appear to have told their players about the decision before it was announced. Midfielder Danielle Buet tweeted ‘Thanks @Official_NCFC left jobless and homeless.’ She also said the players had only found out through the media, and that the club haven’t ‘even got the balls to tell us to our faces.’

More info on:

Interview with player Louise Quinn:

The FA have reacted as quickly as ever, although they forgot to start their message with... "Er..."

England Cup Competitions / Women's FA Cup semi finals, 17 Apr 2017
« on: April 17, 2017, 09:49:59 AM »
As we exclusively revealed on this site by going on the FA's site, this year's final will be a late 5.15 kickoff at Wembley.

So, for the fans' sake, let's hope there aren't any north-west clubs involved. In fact, a London v London final would be much simpler travel-wise, if it could be arranged :D

SEMI-FINALS! Today (Monday) 2pm

Birmingham City v Chelsea (Solihull Moors FC, 2.05pm) tickets (live on Chelsea TV)

Manchester City v Liverpool (Academy Arena, 2pm) tickets (live on 5 live sports extra)

What do you mean, you don't watch Chelsea TV... how odd. So, there's no proper TV coverage, but it is possible to keep up with the games one way or another.

Birmingham-Chelsea here -
Man C-Liverpool here -
Radio coverage starts at 1.55pm -

Chelsea are aiming to reach their third final in a row
(pic: cfcunofficial, cc-by-sa)

The FA WSL / WSL 1 Spring Series
« on: April 17, 2017, 09:10:39 AM »
Finally the tense wait is over, and it's time to find out who's the best in the league in spring conditions. Not the most valuable information as the league moves to a winter schedule from 2017-18, and there are no England places on the line for Euro 2017, and Man City will be distracted by their Champions League run (they hope). And it's only half the length of a normal season. But rest assured it is very important. The winning team will even get a Spring Trophy, something like this:

After the opening weekend (below) featuring 8 of the 10 clubs, two clubs don't get underway until the next weekend: Chelsea and Man City (featuring U.S. international Carli Lloyd).

There are nine rounds of games in six weeks, including several midweek programs.

One of the saddest schedule decisions is not having a full WSL round on Saturday 20 May, the day before the men's Premier League ends. Instead, for one reason or another, a total of six WSL matches will be played at the same time as the 10 games in the PL, a clash that could easily have been avoided.

First fixtures:

Saturday 22 April 2017
18:00   Bristol City Women   v   Reading FC Women   (Bristol City FC)      

Sunday 23 April 2017
14:00   Arsenal Ladies FC   v   Notts County Ladies FC   (Boreham Wood FC)      
14:00   Birmingham City Ladies   v   Sunderland AFC Ladies   (Solihull Moors FC)      
14:00   Yeovil Town Ladies FC   v   Liverpool Ladies FC   (Yeovil Town FC)

Lets hope that Southgate takes a leaf out of Sampson's book and names his World Cup winning squad today......

I... I can't even...

So, yes, Sampson is naming his Euro 2017 squad tomorrow. An unusual move three months before the tournament:

"We've worked with our player pool for three years now and are clear on the right players we want," he said.

"This gives the squad and staff the chance to be focused solely on the Euros and takes away any of the uncertainty that players might have in the run-up."

Yet again, the England manager sticks his oar in and ruins the excitement and tension of yet another WSL Spring Series. How many times have we seen that happen :)

Anyway, the England team are playing a couple of friendlies against Italy and Austria, here's a lazy copy 'n' paste of the info:

Italy are likely to lose badly, if they can't improve on their recent Cyprus Cup performance.

Austria are a more interesting opponent imo – this is a video of their 2016 friendly in Germany, a well-named "test match":


Austria were beaten by Scotland last month in their match in Cyprus.

England Cup Competitions / Women's FA Cup 6th Round, 26 Mar 2017
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:50:02 AM »
Quarter finals time:

Sunday 26th March (2pm)

Birmingham City v Arsenal (Solihull Moors FC)

Chelsea v Sunderland (Staines Town FC)

Bristol City v Manchester City (Stoke Gifford Stadium)

Liverpool v Notts County (Select Security Stadium)


Birmingham and Arsenal will meet on Sunday
(pic: joshjdss, cc-by-sa)

Non WSL UK Women’s Football / WPL, Mar/Apr/May 2017
« on: March 12, 2017, 09:12:14 AM »
Until the end of the 2016-17 season  :-\

Only a few games were played on March 5th.

Today it's a bigger round of fixtures, with the table being especially finely poised in the Southern Division:

WPL South
1   Charlton Athletic Womens   14      32
2   Cardiff City Ladies                12      31
3   Coventry United Ladies        12      31
4   Tottenham Hotspur Ladies   11      31

Women's Football / Yankey on female coaches
« on: March 12, 2017, 08:00:03 AM »
An article written by Rachel Yankey for International Women's Day, about the future for female coaches in women's and men's leagues, including France's Corinne Diacre.


I'm now part of a group of elite female players, including former England skipper Casey Stoney, and record England goalscorer Kelly Smith, who are doing their Uefa A licence.

There are many more England players who are heading down this pathway, and it points to a bright future where experienced internationals can pass their knowledge onto the next generation. [...] Despite the progress, stereotypes still exist in football and until that is broken down it will be extremely difficult for a woman to manage a top level men's team.

Yankey at Arsenal in 2015 (joshjdss)

England International Football / SheBelieves Cup '17
« on: February 26, 2017, 09:10:55 AM »
It's back for a second year:

Wed 1 March - UK times
England v France (9pm)
USA v Germany (midnight)
Talen Energy Stadium, Chester, Pennsylvania

Sat 4th
France v Germany (7.15pm)
USA v England (10pm)
Red Bull Arena, Harrison, New Jersey

Tues 7th
Germany v England (9pm)
USA v France (midnight)
Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C.

Exactly the kind of test you want when things are looking a bit dodgy  :-\

The England contingent includes Casey Stoney after her injury, while Megan Rapinoe is injured and missing from the American squad. Germany are without Potsdam forward Svenja Huth and defensive midfielder Tabea Kemme, but they should be a tough proposition going into the tournament. France will welcome back Lyon's Élodie Thomis and Portland's Amandine Henry.

There's been no word on UK TV coverage. Some of the games might be available via the other countries' broadcasters - watch this space.

ENGLAND SQUAD for She Believes Cup:

Goalkeepers: Karen Bardsley (Manchester City), Siobhan Chamberlain (Liverpool), Mary Earps (Reading).

Defenders: Laura Bassett (Notts County), Millie Bright (Chelsea), Lucy Bronze (Manchester City), Rachel Daly (Houston Dash), Steph Houghton (Manchester City), Jo Potter (Notts County), Alex Scott (Arsenal), Casey Stoney (Liverpool), Demi Stokes (Manchester City).

Midfielders: Isobel Christiansen (Manchester City), Jade Moore (Notts County), Jordan Nobbs (Arsenal), Jill Scott (Manchester City), Fara Williams (Arsenal)

Forwards: Karen Carney (Chelsea), Toni Duggan (Manchester City), Nikita Parris (Manchester City), Jodie Taylor (Arsenal), Rachel Williams (Notts County), Ellen White (Birmingham City).

What is SheBelieves?

Conceived and developed by the U.S. Women’s National Team players, SheBelieves is a movement to inspire young girls and women and encourage them to accomplish their goals and dreams, athletic or otherwise. The campaign was originally launched in the run-up to the 2015 Women’s World Cup but has since evolved and grown into a special bond between the team and its fans, taking its powerful message of empowerment and that of believing in yourself into communities across the nation.

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