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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: April 13, 2013, 12:06:28 PM »
Blackburn through to the final defeating Everton 3-2 well done to both sides!

Halt time it was Arsenal 0 Villa 0

The FA WSL 2 / Re: WSL Div 2
« on: April 10, 2013, 12:53:57 AM »
I might have missed it already, but I heard that the FA may reduce the CoE licences in 2014 to the 20 (or so) WSL clubs, and change the rest of them into PDC's. Is there any truth in this?

Will this mean that kids who are nowhere near a WSL side who are more than capable of holding their own be left in the wilderness?

Not true

As a current parent of a player in a Coe who does not have a wsl bid in I have been worried as have many parents in our centre about what will happen to the centre.

In answer to your question i cant speak for all coe's or women and girls officers however Our CFA and centre work closely together and we have asked them both about the claim made by Cestria's rep and we were told that information that nobody is aware of the claim having asked. I suppose as we have 2 very proactive organisations we have been able to get some sort of information. Does not make the claim wrong though as nobody knows anything about it but then again we might not have been told the truth but then the same could be said about the original claim but I'm inclined to believe people who are within the current Coe structure and those that work on our daughters behalf than a claim made on the forum but it does concern many of us who are travelling 1hr 30 mins already for training that we might lose a centre under that suggestion

Hope this makes sense from our side. We like you just want the best for our kids  >:(

For those of you who think that the claims that eventually all we will have left of the original 52 CofEs will be 20 Centres is pure conjecture -please refer to the very start of this topic when the original cull was just a 'rumour'.

As for the fact that CofEs or women and girls officers are not aware of any further cuts, again think back to the fateful day the list of 30 was published. How many CofEs knew they were likely to lose their licences  then ? How many girls and womens officers?  I know of at least three Centres who were  convinced the day before the announcement - because of assurances given by their County FAs(presumably womens and girls officers) - that their licences were not in any doubt! Two were closed within 24 hours!

I appreciate that for those of us still within the system, the thought that we could join those who lost out last time is not a pleasant one.  I have read  many posts on this thread that comment on the significant rise in quality in the system since the overhaul. In certain cases this is true - hardly surprising however given the increase in funding and the availability of players and coaches  after the closures. But  we also know that for many centres their has been no perceivable increase in the standards of coaching or players. Look at the U17 league tables and results and tell me that it indicates anything other than the strengthening of certain centres at the expense of others.

Do I know for an absolute fact that only the lucky bidders for WSL 1&2 teams will have CofEs come 2014? No I don't.  But we do all know the established facts. CofEs reason to exist is to generate players for WSL and England. The WSL will have a reserves league to transition U17s (U19s CofE in all but name?) to the adult game. The FA are dedicated to concentrating the 'best' players and coaches for the holy grail of 'excellence'.

Now ask yourself this, will the FAs aims be best served by a neat amalgamation of WSL and Centres or will they continue to fund CofEs whose chances of producing - and holding onto an England player for their Womens team that competes below the current Combination - are at best, unlikely? 

The trouble is the FA bases the majority of its decisions on the advice of professional marketeers and consultants. Summer football is a classic example, a proposal from the company that advised the Rugby League to switch to the Summer. Another current suggestion from the FA doing the rounds of grassroots leagues is to switch to one year age and come into line with the UEFA bandings ie birth year not school year.  As any marketeer will tell you, that doubles the number of teams/players (target audience) in a single stroke.  For clubs who struggle for players, coaches, facilities and finance it means doubling everything! Suddenly you have to register two teams, need two pitches on a Saturday, pay for two refs and double the workload on the volunteers who are the lifeblood of the sport!

So the question remains, will we see many non WSL CofEs by the end of 2014?  Based on the evidence to hand I am afraid I don't think so.  But it is up to individuals to glean as much information as they can prior to any decision being made, and, if they can, try and influence the decision makers to do the right thing.  Lets not get caught cold again on this matter. The day after the decision has been made is the worst possible time to start questioning the FA. 

As the old saying roughly goes "those who fail to learn the lessons of history, are doomed to repeat it"

You said you were told by an FA Counciler, could I suggest that perhaps they might be wrong. I have looked at the wsl bids and notice that arguably one of the strongest counties at producing international youth players don't have a wsl bid in do you honestly think that counties Coe will be cut? Hmmm

Without strong coe's countywide you don't have a wsl as the players won't be good enough long term.

I would suggest that maybe you think you know more than you actually do.

20 CofEs in 2014!  Anybody like to hazard a guess as to who they will be? It pretty much looks like CofEs will be reserved for WSL 1&2, with current  licence holders downgraded to PDC status.  According to one well connected FA committee member they were surprised that the WSL and Centre bidding processes are being held separately and in different years,  because it is 'inconceivable that you be granted one(WSL licence) and not the other(CofE Licence) so it makes perfect sense to merge the systems to concentrate the best coaches, players and facilities'................

Where have you heard this? No COE are aware of this or women and girls officers

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: England scouts
« on: March 10, 2013, 11:45:55 PM »
He gets 10 quid per post probably  :D

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: England scouts
« on: March 05, 2013, 11:38:44 PM »
Any of the blackburn u17s squad going? Not that they are any good or anything  :D

Yeah i'm back, the 'mourning period' is over, takes a lot out of you when you lose your first competitive match in over a year !!!!! i could make up excuses as to why we lost, the 5 players we had injured ( make that six and we still stuff Norwich 8-1 ) no lucky pants, terrible NORTHERN weather conditions etc etc etc, but i wont, beaten fair & square by a good Blackburn team, good luck in the next round......................... ;D

Cry me a river  ;)

Norwich 1 Chelsea 8
Arsenal 5 Gillingham 0

Nice to hear from you again Fabregas04( or should that be 0-5) - is the mourning period over?


Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: January 23, 2013, 07:55:16 PM »
All North Semi Finals anyone?

Scouts could have a week off  :D

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: January 12, 2013, 03:00:07 PM »
Colchester 1 Man U 0

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: January 12, 2013, 02:04:02 PM »
Everton 2 Brighton 1 Now 3-0

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: January 12, 2013, 01:59:43 PM »
The 1.5 percent probability might have done over the Southerners  :D

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: January 12, 2013, 01:43:58 PM »
Bit unfair on the Southerners drawing these tough Northerners  :)

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: December 06, 2012, 11:07:40 PM »
Yeah they might all be out by the next round!

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 Match Results
« on: December 02, 2012, 11:43:15 PM »
Blackburn 3 Derby 2

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: Summer Football?
« on: December 01, 2012, 12:58:32 AM »
Easy in theory not so easy in practice- What about- Ground, Training facility avaliability (Other sports, schools shut), Player and staff avaliability (Summer holidays) Other Sports (These girls are athletes and are good at athletics, cricket and other summer sports) How do you manage players not playing grass roots in the winter? What about international player avaliability (Euro qualifiers etc)


Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 National Cup
« on: November 26, 2012, 10:41:29 PM »
Your Centre has been thrown out for you going on about it so much.

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 Match Results
« on: November 18, 2012, 11:08:40 PM »
Genuinely shows your real interest to debate does it not?

If your not willing to accept others ideas and opinions a forum is not for you tbh- I've done nothing but ask you about your situation and you have acted like a child.

Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: U17 Match Results
« on: November 18, 2012, 10:36:38 PM »
You seem to have a major issue here with the COE system- could I ask which former Centre you were with and what was the reaso they did not recieve a licence if you know?

This is not a dig I'm genuinely interested

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