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The changes are to be welcomed, playing in boys ( mixed) football will certainly aid player development. In my opinion all girls should be encouraged to play mixed football at all available age groups, my daughter plays under 18's football with the lads and chose this option over playing Womens football. the womens game is to a certain extent more technical and the game is played differently but without a doubt youth team football with the lads is quicker, more physical and requires players to make decisions under pressure. A lads youth team would be too strong for most womens teams but players playing at this level can certainly improve their own game and as the rest of Europe actively encourage girls playing at older age groups we should also do so. My understanding is that in England we have only 1 possibly 2 players at under 18's playing lads youth football. Surely Womens football (as well as Men's )should be exploring all avenues to make individual players better which in turn benefits the whole game. Sadly we continue to look at the games separately and their is still a very arrogant attitude from both sides to girls/women playing mixed football which is only to the detriment of development. In short the proposals are a step in the right direction.

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As the FA have one changed the rules for girls to play mixed football up to 18 we are finally in line with most of Europe. I agree with previous posts that playing mixed football certainly aids development far more than coe football, hopefully those in charge of rep football will start to dig a little deeper for these diamonds that are playing mixed or ladies football at a younger age rather than the conveyor belt of Coe players that start at 9 and experience nothing else. Best advice to all girls is to experience all types of football available.

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The future of womens football in Lancashire is indeed bright but I can't say the same for England as it seems that the North West is an area that is ignored by England, esp Lancashire. The whole England selection system is flawed as it ignores players who are not at a COE and this rules out some exceptional talent who may play mixed football, adult football (once 16) and at other clubs who for some reason either cannot attend or do not wish to attend a COE. Only in England can we build a system that ignores talent simply because they are not in 'the system'.

I take my hat off to the coaching team Lancashire Schools Fa, they have achieved these results because they select teams from accross the whole football spectrum and if you are good enough you play no matter where you are from, take note England.

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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: trials for C.O.E
« on: July 02, 2014, 11:04:53 AM »
You'd be surprised at how quickly they adapt especially those who have had the experience of all aspects of football, grassroots, mixed and Coe. The better teams allow them to bed in gradually and in the longer term they have to make the step at some point.

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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: trials for C.O.E
« on: July 01, 2014, 11:36:11 PM »
I wouldn't bother with a Coe just move straight to adult football, most ladies teams will allow her to train with them prior to turning 16 and she will benefit from this experience far more than a Coe at her age. Hope she gets sorted as too many girls lost to football post 16.

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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: Girls CoE Trials
« on: June 14, 2014, 08:47:09 PM »
I think Everton ask all players to retrial on the basis that if you are good enough you will get back in. They must therefore also have confidence in their own coaching ability and are not in fear of what it may look like if they release anyone. Best system by far.

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Surely any criteria for holding or gaining a Coe licence from 2015 must be to have a womens team playing at some level. Man utd have no womens team at any level.

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Off Topic / Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
« on: May 26, 2014, 09:10:47 PM »
I'm not sure what argument I've walked into here but i think we can all agree that football has changed considerably over the last 2,5 10 or 20 years and is now a game based on pace, skill, thinking on your feet and less so on who can kick lumps out of who. Dontvgetvmevwrong physicality is still part of the game but not as much these days. This change has helped boys and girl of all statures play the game. Ask messi!.

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Off Topic / Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
« on: May 26, 2014, 08:53:17 PM »
No modification required.

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Off Topic / Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
« on: May 26, 2014, 07:05:43 PM »
You are right schools have always been an issue and despite the current rules and my daughters constant requests they won't allow mixed football despite most of her school team being made up of her own club side. As regards to being brave, not really just honest. She has payed mixed football since the age of 6 and has left and gone back as the rules have changed and in those times has played at Coe and in girls teams which she also enjoyed. I think its more that this is where she started and because she joined at 6 is also welcomed and respected by the lads which may not apply to all girls in mixed football.

Most important issue is that she is more than a match in all aspects if the game and is proof that mixed football, especially for girls who don't have an option works very well.

Next to the head teacher !

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Off Topic / Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
« on: May 26, 2014, 10:50:10 AM »
That's good news, my daughter had played at Coe but the footie she enjoys and relishes the most is playing mixed football and that's what she will now be doing next year, I'm sure in holland they allow mixed football up to an even older age.

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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: Girls CoE Trials
« on: May 25, 2014, 01:38:42 PM »
Until the FA decide to hand out rules and regs re trials rather than simply guidance each and every centre will do their own thing, some good, some bad. I am surprised that considering a Coe is a gateway to England that they don't monitor the whole process. Maybe some centre are just lazy and take the path of least resistance knowing they can do this without reproach.

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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: Girls CoE Trials
« on: May 24, 2014, 05:50:16 PM »
I have spoken to the FA on this subject as recently as yesterday and this has always intrigued me. The answer given by a senior source at the FA- the FA do not tell or govern the trial process that each Coe undergoes only the timing of the trials is under their remit. They do recommend that coe's make sure that they have sufficient places available to make sure that they can accommodate late developers, people new to an area and those moving centres. They can, if they want issue passes to all existing players if they see fit and not hold a trial. When pushed on large number of passes given out by coe the source confirmed that they would not see this as good practice but it is down to each individual centre. If they think that the existing squad all deserve passes that is up to them but they may well be missing other talent.

I find it strange that the FA don't have any rules on this but that's the answer.


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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: Girls CoE Trials
« on: May 23, 2014, 09:24:46 AM »
Those in a Coe have an obvious advantage and in the main should retain their places, to offer 14 passes is in my mind too many and if this is the case they should stop the 'open trial' process and revert to scouting. I would be interested to know the FA stance on the number of auto passes handed out.

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Girl's Centres of Excellence / Re: Girls CoE Trials
« on: May 23, 2014, 12:13:18 AM »
The biggest issue with any Coe trials especially for those trying to break into a Coe is the number of passes given to existing players. I know that man utd have given out 14 passes/retained letters for the under 17 next season, all to outfield players. Add in 2 keepers and assume a squad of 18 and their will be a lot if trialist for not many places. Wrong in my opinion and i hope it isn't repeated at other centres.

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