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Title: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: bilbobaggins on May 26, 2014, 10:45:49 AM
http://www.thefa.com/news/2014/may/mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16 (http://www.thefa.com/news/2014/may/mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16)


now increased age to u16s for mixed football , the news item states its to give choice to females, its not compulsory.
 
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Pukkapad on May 26, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
That's good news, my daughter had played at Coe but the footie she enjoys and relishes the most is playing mixed football and that's what she will now be doing next year, I'm sure in holland they allow mixed football up to an even older age.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 26, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
Revealing touch of sexism from Kelly Simmons, FA Director of National Game and Women’s Football…. what’s wrong with giving boys the choice?

Don’t know what you mean by not being compulsory – the FA certainly have no choice, and they know it!

Is it really  surprising that The FA have raised the age to 16?  As I’ve been pointing out, ad nauseum, the FA have been legally on very dodgy ground, at least since the Equality Act 2010 came into force. They are probably hoping that by salami-slicing the age increase, no one has noticed their illegal discrimination against children.  However, they will not be totally out of the woods until the age limit is raised to 18.

Of greater importance is the position they have now placed schools in, who have now no excuse whatsoever for segregating any sport by gender.   I would advise any child, or their parent(s)/guardian(s) who finds themselves in such a position to complain to the head-teacher - with the threat of legal action if needs be.

That's good news, my daughter had played at Coe but the footie she enjoys and relishes the most is playing mixed football and that's what she will now be doing next year, I'm sure in holland they allow mixed football up to an even older age.


Very brave of you to admit to your daughter preferring to play mixed football – contradicts all the claims from the inner circle of this site!
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Pukkapad on May 26, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
You are right schools have always been an issue and despite the current rules and my daughters constant requests they won't allow mixed football despite most of her school team being made up of her own club side. As regards to being brave, not really just honest. She has payed mixed football since the age of 6 and has left and gone back as the rules have changed and in those times has played at Coe and in girls teams which she also enjoyed. I think its more that this is where she started and because she joined at 6 is also welcomed and respected by the lads which may not apply to all girls in mixed football.

Most important issue is that she is more than a match in all aspects if the game and is proof that mixed football, especially for girls who don't have an option works very well.

Next to the head teacher !
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Mackem Steve on May 26, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Most important issue is that she is more than a match in all aspects if the game and is proof that mixed football, especially for girls who don't have an option works very well.

So you don't think the game needs to be modified in some ridiculous way that is actually sexist and patronizing towards girls by telling them they can't physically compete with boys?  ;)
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Pukkapad on May 26, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
No modification required.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 26, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
Most important issue is that she is more than a match in all aspects if the game and is proof that mixed football, especially for girls who don't have an option works very well.

So you don't think the game needs to be modified in some ridiculous way that is actually sexist and patronizing towards girls by telling them they can't physically compete with boys?  ;)

  You are really struggling with your argument against me by implying that I am sexist, when it is you that doesn’t want mixed football.   All I’ve done is to suggest a method of allaying oft expressed concern over generally accepted physical disparities , and parental fears about physical contact, between the sexes.  I’m sure that if Pukkapad reads over recent postings (s)he will be able to make up her/his own mind who is fighting for girls rights.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Pukkapad on May 26, 2014, 09:10:47 PM
I'm not sure what argument I've walked into here but i think we can all agree that football has changed considerably over the last 2,5 10 or 20 years and is now a game based on pace, skill, thinking on your feet and less so on who can kick lumps out of who. Dontvgetvmevwrong physicality is still part of the game but not as much these days. This change has helped boys and girl of all statures play the game. Ask messi!.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 26, 2014, 09:29:15 PM
Agreed, but that change has been imposed by external forces.  As far as women and girls are concerned more change needs to take place.  
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: andydinger on May 26, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
That's good news, my daughter had played at Coe but the footie she enjoys and relishes the most is playing mixed football and that's what she will now be doing next year.

Mine too. This season she's played U14s Academy on a Saturday & her local U14s boys team on a Sunday (despite being U13) and has loved it. So this extends how long she can continue playing with her local team for another couple of years if she chooses.

And all without having to feed some fat lawyer or resort to some daft sexist segregated "game" that treats girls like untouchables.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: bilbobaggins on May 26, 2014, 11:28:16 PM
well, nice to see people agree that to treat women differently is wrong.
last thing i want to see is a segregated pitch! ala fair football, if the want to play and can compete on an equal footing then that's fantastic.

Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: 49yardtapin on May 27, 2014, 07:01:57 AM
The fairfootball idea turns out to be quite discriminatory. Who knew?? ;)
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 27, 2014, 08:51:45 AM
It’s taken you all a while to appreciate it, but of course it’s discriminatory,   However it is not negative gender discrimination, as it favours nobody.  It’s probably the first ever proposed example of affirmative action that is totally neutral – everybody gains equally!  Now men’s football vs women’s football, or mixed football…. guess who comes off second best?
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: raefil on May 27, 2014, 10:00:18 AM
It’s taken you all a while to appreciate it, but of course it’s discriminatory,   However it is not negative gender discrimination, as it favours nobody.  It’s probably the first ever proposed example of affirmative action that is totally neutral – everybody gains equally!  Now men’s football vs women’s football, or mixed football…. guess who comes off second best?
Id suggest, with your plan, everyone. Male players, female players and paying customers.  Actually scrap the third one because no-one would pay!
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 27, 2014, 10:04:29 AM
That's good news, my daughter had played at Coe but the footie she enjoys and relishes the most is playing mixed football and that's what she will now be doing next year.

Mine too. This season she's played U14s Academy on a Saturday & her local U14s boys team on a Sunday (despite being U13) and has loved it. So this extends how long she can continue playing with her local team for another couple of years if she chooses.

And all without having to feed some fat lawyer or resort to some daft sexist segregated "game" that treats girls like untouchables.

Sorry I overlooked your posting.  Good to see your daughter is now playing football together with boys.   What’s even better is that she can now do so up to the age of 16.   Despite your dislike of litigation, it’s surprising what a little reminder to the FA that they are still acting illegally, will do. Unfortunately, with the law as it stands, she will have no such choice when she reaches 16 (or will it now change to 18?).
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Alan on May 27, 2014, 11:24:37 AM
A message from some people who are actually doing something about this problem:
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/equality/womens-and-girls-football
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Mackem Steve on May 27, 2014, 12:02:16 PM

You are really struggling with your argument against me by implying that I am sexist

No, you seem to have misunderstood me, i wasn't implying your idea is sexist, i'm saying it is.

when it is you that doesn’t want mixed football

Please, feel free to quote ANY post on here where i've opposed mixed football. I, and in fact NO ONE on this forum is opposed to mixed football, just your sexist idea of how it should be played where girls are cordoned off into some little corner of the pitch, sending out the message that they're unable to compete with boys.


All I’ve done is to suggest a method of allaying oft expressed concern over generally accepted physical disparities , and parental fears about physical contact, between the sexes.  

Probably a small minority. The majority of parents will except that if their daughter wants to play mixed football with boys then some sort of physical contact in inevitable.


I’m sure that if Pukkapad reads over recent postings (s)he will be able to make up her/his own mind who is fighting for girls rights.

Well it may not be me, but it's certainly not you. I don't have a daughter so support and promote football through my facebook page, twitter and going to every game i can. I actually received positive feedback from the woman who used to run the old Sunderland Women official website when she told me hits on the site had risen dramatically since i opened it through me linking articles from my facebook page. If i got only a few people interested in SAFC Ladies and women's football in general, then it was worth it.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 27, 2014, 01:36:52 PM

You are really struggling with your argument against me by implying that I am sexist

No, you seem to have misunderstood me, i wasn't implying your idea is sexist, i'm saying it is.

when it is you that doesn’t want mixed football

Please, feel free to quote ANY post on here where i've opposed mixed football. I, and in fact NO ONE on this forum is opposed to mixed football, just your sexist idea of how it should be played where girls are cordoned off into some little corner of the pitch, sending out the message that they're unable to compete with boys.


All I’ve done is to suggest a method of allaying oft expressed concern over generally accepted physical disparities , and parental fears about physical contact, between the sexes. 

Probably a small minority. The majority of parents will except that if their daughter wants to play mixed football with boys then some sort of physical contact in inevitable.


I’m sure that if Pukkapad reads over recent postings (s)he will be able to make up her/his own mind who is fighting for girls rights.

Well it may not be me, but it's certainly not you. I don't have a daughter so support and promote football through my facebook page, twitter and going to every game i can. I actually received positive feedback from the woman who used to run the old Sunderland Women official website when she told me hits on the site had risen dramatically since i opened it through me linking articles from my facebook page. If i got only a few people interested in SAFC Ladies and women's football in general, then it was worth it.

I have already exposed your attitude to playing football with men – I have no wish to embarrass you further.   Additionally you obviously have not, or most probably, wish not to have, any understanding of my fair football proposal.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 27, 2014, 01:43:08 PM
A message from some people who are actually doing something about this problem:
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/equality/womens-and-girls-football

Hum yes, and still participation of girls, and boys, is falling.   Perhaps it’s all my fault for pointing out the legal position,  making the FA have raise the age for mixed football.  Never mind only three years to go before women’s football is the second most popular team sport – or so the FA would have you believe!
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Mackem Steve on May 27, 2014, 02:02:59 PM
I have already exposed your attitude to playing football with men – I have no wish to embarrass you further.

So basically you mean you can't do what i ask and find a quote from me where i've opposed mixed football? And after making the direct statement that i'm against it.

As you like to do with other users i'll do to you and say that i'll let others decide from both of our posts who is embarrassing themselves.

Your whole idea and concept has been shot down time and time again for the sexist game that it is, and yet you persist with the "Everyone is wrong and i'm right" attitude.

Yes, and i'm the one embarrassed eh?
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: The Cabbage on May 27, 2014, 02:11:34 PM
I'm glad I joined this site - haven't laughed so much since Liverpool ( mens ) blew the Premier League....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Mackem Steve on May 27, 2014, 04:20:02 PM
I'm glad I joined this site - haven't laughed so much since Liverpool ( mens ) blew the Premier League....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you mean joined, or rejoined? *Cough cough* ;)
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: raefil on May 27, 2014, 04:47:26 PM
I'm glad I joined this site - haven't laughed so much since Liverpool ( mens ) blew the Premier League....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you mean joined, or rejoined? *Cough cough* ;)
Rejoine the "Elite" Steve :D
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Alan on May 27, 2014, 09:12:27 PM
A message from some people who are actually doing something about this problem:
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/equality/womens-and-girls-football
Hum yes, and still participation of girls, and boys, is falling.   Perhaps it’s all my fault for pointing out the legal position,  making the FA have raise the age for mixed football.  Never mind only three years to go before women’s football is the second most popular team sport – or so the FA would have you believe!
Don't worry, nothing is your fault, that's merely a delusion.  The FA is at least doing something about these issues.  Your fundamental approach can be put right in three steps: by (i) showing some understanding of sport - there are some sports that are played by men and women separately, (ii) showing some understanding of football - it's obviously futile to try to get the rules changed, (iii) showing some understanding of the issues that women in football are facing - none of them wants to play mixed football.  After that you can then go away and think carefully about how to overcome any real or imaginary problems that you still think need addressing.  I'm sure we would be only too pleased to discuss them.  That's a fundamental recipe for approaching real-world problems :).  

What happens in other countries?  certainly in Norway talented girls get to play in boys' teams and a good example can be found in Cecilie Fiskerstrand.  There is short video about her on http://www.tv2.no/a/5548160 found by scrolling down and selecting the second page of videos.  This one opens with a shot of laces being tied, hairy legs, and a deep voice saying: "Our keeper is really fantastic" . . cut to Fiskerstrand doing some shot-saving.  The point is not mixed football, but girls who want to play and who are up to standard are welcomed into boys' teams (she has no ambitions to play in men's football in the long term).
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: andydinger on May 28, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
Hehe Alan, he got you! You made the mistake that so many others on this and other forums have done of attempting to use logical argument... You foolish boy!!!  ;D

He will now "shoot down" your argument by claiming: (i) you are sexist for suggesting than any sport cannot be suitably butchered so men & women can play equally; (ii) you are dinosaur for not having faith in his huge persuasive power to get the rules of football changed; (iii) you cannot prove that absolutely NO women want to play the current (sexist) form of mixed football, ergo football must be changed.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 28, 2014, 06:29:40 PM
A message from some people who are actually doing something about this problem:
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/equality/womens-and-girls-football
Hum yes, and still participation of girls, and boys, is falling.   Perhaps it’s all my fault for pointing out the legal position,  making the FA have raise the age for mixed football.  Never mind only three years to go before women’s football is the second most popular team sport – or so the FA would have you believe!
Don't worry, nothing is your fault, that's merely a delusion.  The FA is at least doing something about these issues.  Your fundamental approach can be put right in three steps: by (i) showing some understanding of sport - there are some sports that are played by men and women separately, (ii) showing some understanding of football - it's obviously futile to try to get the rules changed, (iii) showing some understanding of the issues that women in football are facing - none of them wants to play mixed football.  After that you can then go away and think carefully about how to overcome any real or imaginary problems that you still think need addressing.  I'm sure we would be only too pleased to discuss them.  That's a fundamental recipe for approaching real-world problems :). 

What happens in other countries?  certainly in Norway talented girls get to play in boys' teams and a good example can be found in Cecilie Fiskerstrand.  There is short video about her on http://www.tv2.no/a/5548160 found by scrolling down and selecting the second page of videos.  This one opens with a shot of laces being tied, hairy legs, and a deep voice saying: "Our keeper is really fantastic" . . cut to Fiskerstrand doing some shot-saving.  The point is not mixed football, but girls who want to play and who are up to standard are welcomed into boys' teams (she has no ambitions to play in men's football in the long term).

Your faith in the FA is somewhat misplaced.   When I did the research for FairFootball, it soon became clear that the FA had been unlawfully discriminating against girls, over the age of 11, since the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 – that’s right, 1975, or put another way, almost 50 years before someone had the courage to do anything.  Absolutely disgusting!  The FA is not an organisation that I would put my trust in…. especially when it comes to women’s rights.

As for your assertion that women do not want to play football with men – where’s your evidence?  I know of no reliable research showing what they want, one way or the other.  The only certainty I can see is that women have never been given the opportunity, and instead been groomed by being fed the myth that they are not worthy enough to do so.   I see no logical reason why football cannot change its rules to allow women to play on equal terms with men.  Plenty of other industries have had to adjust their practices to do so – what’s special about football?  Or is it that I’m corrupting women by giving them unnatural ideas above their station – a dangerous subversive, as I’ve been called on this site?

Thank you for the information on mixed football in other countries.  Unfortunately my Norwegian language skills are non-existent.   However from what I can gather (with the exception of a few African countries, surprisingly), there is, like here, very strong cultural pressure to keep the sexes segregated.  Women and men cavorting together on a football field…. Ach-y-fi!!!
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: law10 on May 28, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
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As for your assertion that women do not want to play football with men – where’s your evidence?  I know of no reliable research showing what they want

Personally, I've known thousands of female players.  I don't read about them in books.  And virtually all of them, if told they had to play with men, would quit the game for women's hockey, ringette, rugby, handball, etc.

You can philosophize and try and split atoms but getting out and talking to women would be edifying.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 28, 2014, 07:39:24 PM
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As for your assertion that women do not want to play football with men – where’s your evidence?  I know of no reliable research showing what they want

Personally, I've known thousands of female players.  I don't read about them in books.  And virtually all of them, if told they had to play with men, would quit the game for women's hockey, ringette, rugby, handball, etc.

You can philosophize and try and split atoms but getting out and talking to women would be edifying.

Players of women’s football are not only a select minority group, but also a self-selected sample. Although interesting would not amount to any meaningful evidence.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: law10 on May 28, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
Don't know about the UK but females are 42% of players where I live.  That's a pretty weak minority.

Direct feedback is great evidence.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Mackem Steve on May 28, 2014, 09:13:18 PM
So he wants to change the rules of football but not only doesn't have any evidence but thinks gaining any would be pointless lol Anyone else think that the evidence that enough women (and men) that want to play mixed football to even consider making his SexistFootball work doesn't exist? I wonder if it's because there is hardly any interest in mixed football for girls above school age.

He wouldn't know what women want if one came up and punched him in the face.

Any takers?  ;)
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: andydinger on May 28, 2014, 11:03:29 PM
I WIN: ;D
(iii) you cannot prove that absolutely NO women want to play the current (sexist) form of mixed football, ergo football must be changed.

As for your assertion that women do not want to play football with men – where’s your evidence?  I know of no reliable research showing what they want, one way or the other.  The only certainty I can see is that women have never been given the opportunity, and instead been groomed by being fed the myth that they are not worthy enough to do so.   I see no logical reason why football cannot change its rules to allow women to play on equal terms with men.
Players of women’s football are not only a select minority group, but also a self-selected sample. Although interesting would not amount to any meaningful evidence.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 29, 2014, 08:38:26 AM
So he wants to change the rules of football but not only doesn't have any evidence but thinks gaining any would be pointless lol Anyone else think that the evidence that enough women (and men) that want to play mixed football to even consider making his SexistFootball work doesn't exist? I wonder if it's because there is hardly any interest in mixed football for girls above school age.

He wouldn't know what women want if one came up and punched him in the face.

Any takers?  ;)

I don’t mind being verbally insulted by you – it’s all part of this site.  However you have now crossed a line and you are inciting violence.   I see it as a joke but others may not – please remove this comment.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: raefil on May 29, 2014, 09:35:53 AM
snigger  ;D
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 29, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
So he wants to change the rules of football but not only doesn't have any evidence but thinks gaining any would be pointless lol Anyone else think that the evidence that enough women (and men) that want to play mixed football to even consider making his SexistFootball work doesn't exist? I wonder if it's because there is hardly any interest in mixed football for girls above school age.

He wouldn't know what women want if one came up and punched him in the face.

Any takers?  ;)

I don’t mind being verbally insulted by you – it’s all part of this site.  However you have now crossed a line and you are inciting violence.   I see it as a joke but others may not – please remove this comment.

I take massive exception to all of your posts which I find distasteful and insulting - PLEASE REMOVE ALL YOUR POSTS

You have manipulated the quoting system to make out that I have asked someone to remove all their posts – I have not asked anyone to remove all their posts.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: The Cabbage on May 29, 2014, 10:36:49 AM
I think you know exactly what I mean-
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: Mackem Steve on May 29, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
OK, I do apologize for what I said, which clearly wasn’t a joke and an actual threat of violence, what with me knowing who you are and where you live etc. I’ve called off all the women en route to your house to carry out my dastardly deed.

One of them has been in touch however and would like to set up a boxing match, of which the proceeds could be donated to charity. Of course women could not possibly fight on even with men terms so I’ve come up with a modified version to make it fair – I named it FairBoxing.

The man (debatable in your case but I’ll carry on) has a 2ft square box in the middle of the ring and must remain in that box for the whole duration of the round. He can only use whichever hand is not his normal one – so if he is left handed (southpaw) he’ll use his right, and vice versa. The “good” hand will be tied behind the back for safety reasons – we wouldn’t want the less able, weaker woman to take a real punch would we. He must wear boxing gloves 2 sizes too small. He can also only throw a punch during the “buzzer period” – this will be an ear piercing smoke alarm type of buzzer that will last for 30 seconds of each round. This particular rule is thrown in as a crowd pleaser and I’m sure will attract more and more people to FairBoxing.

The woman is allowed to move anywhere in the ring, can use both hands and a weapon of her choice. She will get boxing gloves (probably pink in colour) specially made to be a perfect fit, we know what these women are like for taking things back don’t we? This will eliminate that threat. They will also have a lead plate sown into each glove. This of course can be done by the woman, no need for any extra expense here. During the buzzer period she can summon a second woman who will be waiting in the corner, she will use exactly the same rules as stated above. The two women boxers and every woman in the arena will receive ear protection to protect them during the buzzer period. The men must have stethoscopes, turned to full, pressed up against the alarm sounding under their seat. (The arena of course being split in half, one side for the men and one for the women, we don’t want any physical contact).

So, what do you think? I’ve found one woman who thinks it’s a good idea, maybe that’s enough to start my own website and start (rudely, obviously) emailing the powers that be to completely change boxing forever. And if they ask me what evidence I have that this is what men, women and spectators want I’ll just fob them off by telling them researching and gaining evidence would be pointless.

I think I might seriously be onto something here…
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: bilbobaggins on May 29, 2014, 12:31:56 PM
im beggining to wonder if were all nuts on here!  ::)
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: The Cabbage on May 29, 2014, 12:35:59 PM
It all makes perfect sense to me - good job Steve, cant wait to see the first round.... ;D
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 29, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
OK, I do apologize for what I said, which clearly wasn’t a joke and an actual threat of violence, what with me knowing who you are and where you live etc. I’ve called off all the women en route to your house to carry out my dastardly deed.

One of them has been in touch however and would like to set up a boxing match, of which the proceeds could be donated to charity. Of course women could not possibly fight on even with men terms so I’ve come up with a modified version to make it fair – I named it FairBoxing.

The man (debatable in your case but I’ll carry on) has a 2ft square box in the middle of the ring and must remain in that box for the whole duration of the round. He can only use whichever hand is not his normal one – so if he is left handed (southpaw) he’ll use his right, and vice versa. The “good” hand will be tied behind the back for safety reasons – we wouldn’t want the less able, weaker woman to take a real punch would we. He must wear boxing gloves 2 sizes too small. He can also only throw a punch during the “buzzer period” – this will be an ear piercing smoke alarm type of buzzer that will last for 30 seconds of each round. This particular rule is thrown in as a crowd pleaser and I’m sure will attract more and more people to FairBoxing.

The woman is allowed to move anywhere in the ring, can use both hands and a weapon of her choice. She will get boxing gloves (probably pink in colour) specially made to be a perfect fit, we know what these women are like for taking things back don’t we? This will eliminate that threat. They will also have a lead plate sown into each glove. This of course can be done by the woman, no need for any extra expense here. During the buzzer period she can summon a second woman who will be waiting in the corner, she will use exactly the same rules as stated above. The two women boxers and every woman in the arena will receive ear protection to protect them during the buzzer period. The men must have stethoscopes, turned to full, pressed up against the alarm sounding under their seat. (The arena of course being split in half, one side for the men and one for the women, we don’t want any physical contact).

So, what do you think? I’ve found one woman who thinks it’s a good idea, maybe that’s enough to start my own website and start (rudely, obviously) emailing the powers that be to completely change boxing forever. And if they ask me what evidence I have that this is what men, women and spectators want I’ll just fob them off by telling them researching and gaining evidence would be pointless.

I think I might seriously be onto something here…


Please don’t call off the women – best offer I’ve had for a long time!

Interesting proposal your FairBoxing, however you’ve forgotten the diagonal line across from the neutral corners, with the first to cross the line forfeiting the contest – can’t have any contact between the sexes now, can we….. or am I missing something?
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: bilbobaggins on May 29, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
grey cells?
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 29, 2014, 05:33:17 PM
Don't know about the UK but females are 42% of players where I live.  That's a pretty weak minority.

Direct feedback is great evidence.

I don’t know where you live but in the UK the last time I looked the percentage of men actively participating (not just spectating) was about 2%.  I have no idea the percentage of women but I think I can safely say a lot less than 1%.  On a day when we have been informed that a third of  women under 20 in the UK are obese, isn’t’ it about time that we concentrated less on the tiny minority of women who play women’s football and paid more attention to making the game accessible to all?  It’s a fantastic game for bringing physical activity to the masses.

Direct feedback is very useful but from such a tiny minority not really evidence.   Anyway those are already physically active, and are not the ones who I have any concern for!
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: law10 on May 30, 2014, 01:58:14 PM
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On a day when we have been informed that a third of  women under 20 in the UK are obese, isn’t it about time that we concentrated less on the tiny minority of women who play women’s football and paid more attention to making the game accessible to all?  Direct feedback is very useful but from such a tiny minority not really evidence.   Anyway those are already physically active, and are not the ones who I have any concern for!

That's like people dying in hospitals because they don't have enough help and saying I don't have time because I'm philosophizing on their health.
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: fairfootball on May 30, 2014, 06:11:13 PM
I'm sorry, I haven't a clue as to what point you are making!
Title: Re: mixed-football-extension-agreed-u16
Post by: raefil on May 30, 2014, 07:25:43 PM
I'm sorry, I haven't a clue!
Fair enough.