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Title: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: shlj on March 21, 2008, 10:56:45 PM
They all have different qualities and skills, which player get your votes and why?
You can have 3 votes because it is likely to be have 3 center forward in the squad for the Euros in line with the 4-5-1 tactic employed.

For me 1. Angus 2 Sanderson 3. Dowie
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: David on March 22, 2008, 12:37:49 AM
I went 1) Angus 2) Lander 3) Anderton

If England are to persist with one up front it needs to be someone who can actually score
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: wiganite on March 22, 2008, 08:20:26 PM
There is a reason why Anderton doesnt play for England and that is cos she struggles in training with the Eng squad so never gets picked - Hope may have faults but she can recognise an international player when she sees one.. As for the other two they may be ones for the future but not now again Hope has seen them and not thought they were at the highest level - I know people at England who say that Angus struggled in training - that may change with experience of being in squads but defo not ready for next summer..

It is a problem and I dont know what the answer is - I just think that Leanne Sanderson has the potential and goalscoring qualities to evolve at international level but needs to have games so is the obvious choice
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: shlj on March 22, 2008, 08:35:52 PM
Fair enough if Anderton and Becky struggle in training.
We don't get to see them although I would love to just to see the methods they use.
It's a well known phenomena called peter's principle.
It happens in the France men team  a world class player is no longer called up because he does not bring enough to the team with his technical limitation
We already know that a big emphasis is put on the defensive shape and it's a basic starter
so it should be worked on before anything else.
I believe the defensive organisation is very good at the moment and is a platform and a solid foundation from where a good  attacking and creative style of football can be played.
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: sleepysara13 on March 22, 2008, 10:02:52 PM
ya know a vote for natasha dowie what is it she said summet like 7 goals in 10 league games to me... she knows where d goal is give her a chance, she battles for d ball n knows where d goal is what else ya need
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: cardy on March 23, 2008, 08:05:04 AM
I would say sanderson is the best choice at the moment, by choice I would play her at 10 and not 9 though.  Maybe Dowie for the future. One player no one has mentioned is Jodie Taylor. She is in US studying but is a regular U 23 player in the Nordics and also attended the training camp this month in the UK.  She has the necessary pace and can score (whether or not she can be a regular goal scorer in 'one up top' remains to be seen)
 in the future too.

 
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: KIPAX on March 23, 2008, 08:10:51 AM
There is a reason why Anderton doesnt play for England and that is cos she struggles in training with the Eng squad so never gets picked -

Says who exactly ?
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: lulfc_n_calfc4lyf on March 23, 2008, 05:36:11 PM
a vote 4 dowie, she knows where d goal is n her record is top draw, wot more ya need
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: wiganite on March 23, 2008, 07:00:32 PM
There is a reason why Anderton doesnt play for England and that is cos she struggles in training with the Eng squad so never gets picked -

Says who exactly ?


Im not going to name Eng squad players am I? Lets just say it is the same consensus that thinks Leanne is a quality finisher in training. Again I will say that there has to be a reason she doesnt get a chance.... what other logical reason is there apart from she isnt up to standard? Its one thing scoring against premier league defenders but another international defenders... Eni cant do it either
Title: UEFA Cup stats 07/08
Post by: shlj on March 23, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
Jody Handley is the best english centerforward this season in Europe with an average of 1 goal a game.

1 Handley 6 goals in 6 games
2 Sanderson 2 goals in 5 games
3 Angus and Dowie 1 goal in 3 games.

Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: BillyBoy on March 23, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
Jody Handley is the best english centerforward this season in Europe with an average of 1 goal a game.

1 Handley 6 goals in 6 games
2 Sanderson 2 goals in 5 games
3 Angus and Dowie 1 goal in 3 games.

Didn't Everton play in the preliminary groups? Arsenal and Kolbotn were seeded and so had more difficult games. So I'm not sure how much significance should be given to those figures.

How many goals might Lianne and Becky have got if they had been involved in the easier groups?
Title: Re: UEFA Cup stats 07/08
Post by: wiganite on March 23, 2008, 08:24:19 PM
Jody Handley is the best english centerforward this season in Europe with an average of 1 goal a game.

1 Handley 6 goals in 6 games
2 Sanderson 2 goals in 5 games
3 Angus and Dowie 1 goal in 3 games.



I actually agree that Jody should be way above the majority of the list and on a par with Leanne. She doesnt play No9 for Eng which is very strange as her goal tally shows that she is more than a number 7...
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: footiechick on March 23, 2008, 09:09:24 PM
Interesting that nobody has voted for Aluko yet...
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: KIPAX on March 23, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
There is a reason why Anderton doesnt play for England and that is cos she struggles in training with the Eng squad so never gets picked -

Says who exactly ?


Im not going to name Eng squad players am I? Lets just say it is the same consensus that thinks Leanne is a quality finisher in training. Again I will say that there has to be a reason she doesnt get a chance.... what other logical reason is there apart from she isnt up to standard? Its one thing scoring against premier league defenders but another international defenders... Eni cant do it either


Your talking out of your backside.. there is another reason.. your doing the player a lot of harm spreading tripe like that.. just because you think its logical doesnt mean it is :( dont have a go at a player and accuse them of something then cry about not naming names.  It's people like you that harm the game .. either prove your point (you cant because it simply isnt true) or stop spreading your poison :(
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: wiganite on March 23, 2008, 09:41:35 PM
There is a reason why Anderton doesnt play for England and that is cos she struggles in training with the Eng squad so never gets picked -

Says who exactly ?


Im not going to name Eng squad players am I? Lets just say it is the same consensus that thinks Leanne is a quality finisher in training. Again I will say that there has to be a reason she doesnt get a chance.... what other logical reason is there apart from she isnt up to standard? Its one thing scoring against premier league defenders but another international defenders... Eni cant do it either


Your talking out of your backside.. there is another reason.. your doing the player a lot of harm spreading tripe like that.. just because you think its logical doesnt mean it is :( dont have a go at a player and accuse them of something then cry about not naming names.  It's people like you that harm the game .. either prove your point (you cant because it simply isnt true) or stop spreading your poison :(



Chill out then give me a reason why she doesnt play... Its nothing personal Ive seen her play and she is a good player but Hope Powell thinks she is NOT good enough for England otherwise she would have been played!!!!!!!

So come on then why do you think she isnt played?
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: footiechick on March 24, 2008, 12:50:30 PM
Everybody has their own opinion on players but unfortunately its only Hope Powells which count.Shes manager and she picks the team.End of.Not everybody can play.
Its a promising sign tho if Anderton is in the squad.Powell must think she has potential to break into the team.
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: cardy on March 24, 2008, 03:26:22 PM
I agree international matches are different to premier league.  Its true they all have individual qualities and,  if you like, individual failings.  Powell's choice has to be the best all round option.  Luckily, the onus is on her!  She has a difficult job as there are no obvious choices.  Whoever she selects has a difficult job anyway with one up top. 

Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: shlj on April 16, 2008, 10:56:17 AM
I have been lucky enough to see most of the candidate play in the last month and most of them do really play well at the moment.
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: twmcat on June 13, 2008, 03:01:47 AM
Maybe some of the less popular ones would do well if they played for a bigger team?  :-\
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: Fleetings Feet on June 13, 2008, 09:09:09 AM
I voted 7 times......... ;)
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: shlj on June 13, 2008, 09:12:19 AM
Aluko ?
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: Dr Gonzo on June 13, 2008, 10:51:02 AM
It's funny that poll.  The player who actually plays up front is the one with the least votes.   
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: shlj on June 13, 2008, 11:13:03 AM
Hope Powell makes the decision and England scores loads of goals anyway lol
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: Fleetings Feet on June 13, 2008, 11:50:39 AM
oh, does Lianne play at left back then.. ???
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: footiechick on June 13, 2008, 01:25:31 PM
Might as well.Powell doesnt like playing left backs in that position!
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: the guru on June 13, 2008, 02:07:54 PM

anderton IS good enough for england and hope DOES think that! there are other issue here that we are not aware of......
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: shlj on June 13, 2008, 03:00:11 PM
Well they should short those issues and give her a chance.
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: dowiefan on June 13, 2008, 04:42:15 PM
ando for england
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: Fleetings Feet on June 13, 2008, 05:35:51 PM
no one will shift a fit lianne at the moment.......
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: footiechick on June 13, 2008, 07:21:46 PM
She hasnt really performed for England tho has she?
Title: Re: Search for a world class goalscorer
Post by: Fleetings Feet on June 13, 2008, 08:13:56 PM
watch her go next season....