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Title: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on January 22, 2008, 07:09:17 PM
England's Under-20 team will be playing in Chile at the Four Nations Tournament from February 8th-17th.

The tournament is a trial run-through for the Under-20 World Cup finals which will be played in Chile in November this year.

According to a Norwegian website England will play Norway on Friday February 15th at 19.15 in La Portada Stadium.

http://www.fotball.no/t2.aspx?p=51835&x=1&a=217014&cat=51835
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on January 22, 2008, 07:23:56 PM
I think it will create problems for a side like chelsea hat has 5 or 6 players eligible.
Arsenal has two squad members in it as well.

Title: A huge honour
Post by: Alan on February 01, 2008, 05:08:18 PM
A huge honour

By Alex Stone. Friday, 01 February 2008.

U20 Four Nations Tournament

Monday 11 February
England v USA
Estadio La Portada, 7.15pm (local time)

Wednesday 13 February
Chile v England
Estadio La Portada, 10.00pm (local time)

Friday 15 February
Norway v England
Estadio La Portada, 10.00pm (local time)

England Women's U20s meet up on Wednesday evening on the outskirts of Slough, but 48 hours will be heading to La Serena in Chile.

 
La Serena boasts white sand beaches, a pleasant year-round climate, great scenery and superb seafood, and is the country's second oldest city. None of that will be of too much interest to Head Coach Mo Marley though, as she seeks to step up preparations ahead of the FIFA Women's U20 World Cup in Chile this November.

An 18-player squad will play three matches against Chile, the USA and Norway between 11-15 February, and for one of the squad, pulling on the England training top will be of greater satisfaction than usual.

Twelve months ago, Steph Houghton was being tipped by supporters and journalists as being one of the 'surprise inclusions' in Hope Powell's squad for the World Cup in China.
 
Strong, consistent performances for Sunderland saw Steph earn five caps between March and May of 2007, earning her a call-up in the final squad of 21. But just three days before the team departed for their training camp in Macau, Steph sustained a spiral fracture of the left leg, an injury that has only saw her return to first team action in November.

"To be called up for the U20 squad is a huge honour" Steph told TheFA.com. "This time last year I was targetting the senior World Cup and it would have been a dream come true to have been involved. That wasn't to be, and now if I could represent my country in Chile, it would be just as satisfying.

"All the physios who have worked with me I owe a lot to, and Rick [Passmoor] and Leanne [Hall] at Leeds have also given me a huge amount of support and stuck by me whilst I've been working my way back."
 
After two or three games coming off the bench before Christmas, Steph has now got three games of 90 minutes behind her, and last weekend played in the FA Cup victory which went to penalties away to Chelsea. "I actually took a penalty and missed" admitted Steph "and my only excuse was that I was completely knackered!"

Between them, Leeds and Chelsea make up half of the squad, and Steph feels that her Leeds side are making progress after a slow start to the season.

"We took a while to gel as a side but we're having a good run in The FA Cup and starting to make progress" said Steph. "Rick and Lianne are trying to build a team around some very talented young players, supported by some experienced heads like Sue Smith and Amanda Barr, and hopefully in 2-3 seasons we'll be aiming for sustained period of success."
 
Of her teammates in Chile, Steph knows the likes of Danielle Hill, Sian Larkin and Ellen White from a spell at Loughborough University, and it was there that the squad met for fitness training and a pep-talk this week.

"The Coaching staff have come up with a programme for all the players and we've also received nutritional advice, as well as information preparing us for the long flight. At every level for England now, the players are being supported from a technical, medical and psychological side, and as our players becoming more attuned to the demands of international football, I'm positive that we'll continue to close the gap on some of the more established nations.

"I've never been to South America before so there'll be an element of the unexpected about the three games, but if we prepare as professionally as possible against some strong opposition, we can given ourselves a good confidence boost ahead of the World Cup in November."

England Squad:
Danielle Hill (Everton), Rebecca Spencer (Arsenal), Danielle Buet (Chelsea), Sophie Bradley (Leeds United), Jayne Eadie (Blackburn Rovers), Stephanie Houghton (Leeds United), Sian Larkin (Chelsea), Toni Duggan (Everton), Elizabeth Edwards (Chelsea), Michelle Hinnigan (Everton), Sophie Walton (Leeds United), Chelsea Weston (Birmingham City), Remi Allen (Leicester City), Jessica Clarke (Leeds United), Natasha Dowie (Everton), Claire Rafferty and Ellen White (both Chelsea), Kelly Lawrence (Indiana University)

http://www.thefa.com/Womens/EnglandU19/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2008/02/A_huge_honour.htm
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: sleepysara13 on February 02, 2008, 09:34:22 AM
just thought thought next round fa cup on the tenth.... leeds got 4 first teamers in squad so whats happen 2 dat
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: redrobin on February 12, 2008, 10:56:11 AM
USA Edge Out England U20s
12/02/2008 
 
Monday February 11th
U20 FOUR NATIONS TOURNAMENT
England 0-1 USA

England went down 1-0 to the USA at their opening game in the U20 Four Nations Tournament in La Serena, Chile.

In an even match, watched by a crowd of 2,500 at Estadio La Portada, the only goal game at the end of the first half, Teresa Noyola volleying home from a Nikki Washington cross.

Mo Marley's side went close to an equaliser in the second-half but were denied by fine saves from keeper Alyssa Naeher.

In the other fixture, Chile held Norway to a 3-3 draw, with Tina Wulf Eikeland and June Tårnes (2) on target for the Norwegians.

ENGLAND: Danielle Hill, StephHoughton, Chelsea Weston, Kelly Lawrence, Sophie Bradley, Danielle Buet (Claire Rafferty, 67), Remi Allen, Elizabeth Edwards, Ellen White, Jessica Clark, Natasha Dowie.

USA: Alyssa Naeher, Lauren Barnes, Nikki Marshall, Lauren Fowlkes, Elli Reed, Teresa Noyola, Keelin Winters (Ingrid Wells, 62), Casey Nogueira, Nikkie Washington, Melissa Henderson (Kelley O’Hara, 46), Michelle Enyeart (Ashlee Elliott, 80).
Subs not used: Kristin Olsen, Kasey Johnson, Ella Stephan, Rachel Shipley.

http://www.fgmag.com/news/index.php?&newsmode=FULL&nid=4665
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on February 12, 2008, 09:46:40 PM
USA 1 England 0      
Noyola 45         

U20 Four Nations Tournament
Monday 11 February 2008
Estadio La Portada

England's Under-20s narrowly lost their opening Four Nations fixture against the USA in La Portada, Chile.

Teresa Noyola scored the only goal of the game when she netted on 45 minutes to condemn the Three Lions to a defeat.
 
Mo Marley's squad are in South America to prepare for November's FIFA Women's U20 World Cup, which they qualified for en route to reaching the Final of the European Championship last summer.

"It was a really competitive game against a strong USA team," said the Head Coach. "The girls did extremely well and created many chances."

England will be back in action on Wednesday against the tournament hosts in a game that will be broadcast live on national television.

England: Dani Hill, Stephanie Houghton (c), Chelsea Weston, Dani Buet (Claire Rafferty 65 min), Kelly Lawrence, Sophie Bradley, Ellen White, Elizabeth Edwards, Natasha Dowie, Remi Allen, Jessica Clarke.

Substitutes: Claire Rafferty, Rebecca Spencer, Michelle Hinnigan, Sophie Walton, Jayne Eadie, Sian Larkin, Toni Duggan.
 
Chile fared slightly better than England in their opening fixture, coming from behind to draw 3-3 with Norway.

Goals from Tina Wulf Eikeland in the fourth minute and June Tarnes on 40 minutes gave Norway a two-goal lead but Mayorie Hernandez (53) and Daniela Zamora (75) brought Chile level.

Tarnes restored Norway's lead with seven minutes remaining before Nathalie Quezada made it 3-3 in the 90th minute.

www.thefa.com
Title: England draw 2-2 with Norway
Post by: Alan on February 15, 2008, 09:08:24 PM
The Under-20 England and Norway teams played a 2-2 draw in La Serena, Chile, today in front of 3500 spectators.   Norway went 2-0 up in first ten minutes of the second half but Ellen White reduced the lead to 2-1 in the 82nd minute, and the equaliser came with an own goal by a Norway player right at the end.

www.fotball.no



Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on February 15, 2008, 09:24:20 PM
I think this tournament is excellent as the girls will be used to the environnment when they come back for their world playing quality teams does no harm as well and the logistics and preparation will be also
in good nick thanks to that trip
Title: Under-20 tournament summary
Post by: Alan on February 16, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
Feb 11
Chile 3 Norway 3
USA 1 England 0

Feb 13
USA 2 Norway 1
Chile 1 England 0

Feb 15
Norway 2 England 2
USA 5 Chile 1

Under-20 Four Nations Tournament Chile Feb. 2008
             P    W    L    D    F    A    P
USA        3    3     0    0    8    2    9
Chile       3    1     1    1    5    8    4
Norway   3    0     1    2    6    7    2
England   3    0     2    1    2    4    1
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 03, 2008, 12:07:22 PM
The World Cup is now 48 days away and there is a camp planned next week in preparation for the big event.
As usual we have to guess who has been called up  ???
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Bluesfan on October 03, 2008, 12:49:54 PM
Here's the training camp list from the fair game website (www.fgmag.com)

As part of their preparations for the FIFA U20 World Cup in Chile next month, the England squad have a training camp taking place at Preston Sports Arena, from October 5th-10th.

The squad is as follows;

Remi Allen - Leicester City FCW
Helen Alderson - Sunderland
Sophie Bradley - Leeds Carnegie
Ashley Baker - University Of Georgia
Danielle Buet - Chelsea
Brooke Chaplen - Portsmouth
Jess Clarke - Leeds Carnegie
Natasha Dowie - Everton
Toni Duggan - Everton
Jayne Eadie - Doncaster Rovers Belles
Liz Edwards - Chelsea
Gilly Flaherty - Arsenal
Chloe Foster - Birmingham City
Georgina Giddings - Chelsea
Becky Hall - Birmingham City
Kerys Harrop - Birmingham City
Emily Heckler - Doncaster Rovers Belles
Ashlee Hincks - Watford
Michelle Hinnigan - Everton
Steph Houghton - Leeds Carnegie
Rachel Laws - Sunderland
Sian Larkin - Chelsea
Jade Moore - Leeds Carneige
Katie Owen - Chelsea
Claire Rafferty - Chelsea
Chloe Roberts - Plymouth Argyle
Rebecca Spencer - Arsenal
Sophie Walton - Leeds Carneige
Chelsea Weston - Doncaster Rovers Belles
Fern Whelan - Everton
Rachel Williams - Doncaster Rovers Belles
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 03, 2008, 02:58:28 PM
Gilly and Becky will be with Arsenal in France. It is a huge list, so the final 21 should be in this list I personally would select :
Spencer Alderson Baker Houghton Lawrence Whelan Larkin  bradley Eadie Flaherty Clarke Edwards Williams Buet Rafferty Walton Allen Chaplen Dowie Duggan Hall.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: pat51 on October 03, 2008, 05:40:53 PM
Glad to see that Brooke Chaplen has got fed up with Chelsea and has gone back to Pompey , according to the list ! Bad luck for the 10 or so who get removed from this list before the trip to Chile, especially those who were involved in Iceland 2007 . Awful bad luck for Ellen White and Dani Hill who surely would have been starters in every match...
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 16, 2008, 08:03:53 PM
It's a shame that Heather Scheuber does not play for England any more because she would have been a great addition to this squad. England has a good chance as loads of players are already established Premier League players. France U20 does not boast as much top level experience as this squad that contains 4 UEFA cup winners  ;)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Dr Gonzo on October 16, 2008, 08:11:48 PM
Does the under 20s mean that next months game against Arsenal will be off as well?
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 16, 2008, 08:25:01 PM
I guess yes because Mo Marley will be in Chile and You won't have a center forward available with Duggan and Dowie there as well?
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Dr Gonzo on October 16, 2008, 08:48:55 PM
I guess yes because Mo Marley will be in Chile and You won't have a center forward available with Duggan and Dowie there as well?

And what about Fern Whelan surely she'll be there as well...
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 16, 2008, 09:11:10 PM
I guess yes because Mo Marley will be in Chile and You won't have a center forward available with Duggan and Dowie there as well?

And what about Fern Whelan surely she'll be there as well...
Michelle Hinnigan as well maybe. I guess Chelsea will loose 5 players and Leeds a fair amount , those 3 sides will postpone their games for sure or will be weakened.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: idh1 on October 17, 2008, 09:45:56 AM
Chelsea's fixture list is showing all games postponed between November 9th and December 7th.

These are:

H - Blackburn Rovers    
A - Everton        
A - Bristol Academy       
H - Leeds Carnegie   
A - Arsenal    

They're due to play Watford on Thurs 6th Nov at Imber Court and resume on Sun 14th Dec home against Doncaster.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 17, 2008, 10:36:31 AM
I guess Chelsea reserves team will be a bit stronger during that month, that's unlucky for the sides who will meet them.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: idh1 on October 17, 2008, 10:58:50 AM
Yeah, I imagine the reserves' oppo would be pretty miffed if a host of internationals lined up against them.

However, I don't know how set in stone that blank month is, or what plans Steve has for the rest of the squad.

I'll find out on Sunday.

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 17, 2008, 11:17:11 AM
Yeah, I imagine the reserves' oppo would be pretty miffed if a host of internationals lined up against them.

However, I don't know how set in stone that blank month is, or what plans Steve has for the rest of the squad.

I'll find out on Sunday.
Arsenal reserves has a scheduled games versus Chelsea reserves on the 9th of November, it would be a good test for our academy girls to play versus a strong side. I might give the first team game a miss and see that one instead.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 21, 2008, 10:37:01 AM
The squad has been selected I just wonder if there has been some surprised omission  ???
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: idh1 on October 22, 2008, 01:23:53 PM
Steve will be trying to find some friendlies for the remainder of the senior Chelsea squad while the England under-20s are in action.

However, to keep them ticking over, the girls will feature in reserve games, although not necessarily all of them at the same time.

Where do Arsenal's reserves play?

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 22, 2008, 01:35:58 PM
They play at Potters bar.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: idh1 on October 22, 2008, 01:47:35 PM
Thanks Shij.

I assume that's Potters Bar FC at Parkfield Stadium?
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 22, 2008, 01:52:54 PM
Potters Bar Town FC. Location, Watkins Rise, off The Walk, Potters Bar, Herts. EN6 1QB

It's just behind the high street
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 23, 2008, 10:34:18 AM
Anyone heard about the WC squad  list ? nothing so far on the FA website or fair game?
FIFA asked for the official list to be sent 10 days before the competition. so the wait will be a bit longer...
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: idh1 on October 23, 2008, 10:55:07 AM
Nothing at all.

Mo told me she knew the squad, and the players would be told Monday 20th. 

I'm half tempted to call her, but I figure it's probably just a case of dotting the i's and crossing the t's.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: dowiefan on October 23, 2008, 02:59:04 PM
so far ave heared of what 5 who are going
tats dowie
steph houghton
jade moore
sophie bradley
jess clarrke
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on October 26, 2008, 08:47:45 AM
 Helen Alderson
Sunderland
05.07.89

Remi Allen
Leicester City
15.10.90

Ashley Baker
University of Georgia
15.03.90

Sophie Bradley
Leeds United
20.10.89

Danielle Buet
Chelsea
31.10.88

Brooke Chaplen
Chelsea
16.04.89

Jessica Clarke
Leeds
05.05.89

Natasha Dowie
Everton
30.06.88

Toni Duggan
Everton
25.07.91

Gilly Flaherty
Arsenal
24.08.91

Rebecca Hall
Birmingham City
09.05.88

Kerys Harrop
Birmingham City
03.12.90

Michelle Hinnigan
Everton
12.06.90

Stephanie Houghton
Leeds United
23.04.88

Jade Moore
Leeds United
22.10.90

Claire Rafferty
Chelsea
11.01.89

Rebecca Spencer
Arsenal
22.02.91

Sophie Walton
Leeds United
07.11.89

Chelsea Weston
Doncaster Rovers Belles
27.01.90

Rachel Williams
Doncaster Rovers Belles
10.01.88

Fern Whelan
Everton
05.12.88

No big surprise with the players chosen, they have all in the England youth set up for a while.
The omitted list looks a big strong though : Larkin, Lawrence Hincks and Edwards  :o Sian and Lizzie have not played a great deal of football recently  but Lawrence and Hincks not to be considered good enouhg as well, strange. Hopefully England can go far and loose in the final against France  ;D
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on October 29, 2008, 11:50:14 AM
Article on Canada v New Zealand on:
http://www.thefa.com/Womens/EnglandU17/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2008/10/U17sWC_CanadaNewZealand.htm
Good coverage today on Eurosport and Eurosport 2.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on October 31, 2008, 11:59:42 PM
How do they work out who is under 20?

For instance, Rachel Williams will be 21 in just over 2 months  ???

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 01, 2008, 08:29:11 AM
Competition is open to all female players born after the 01/01/1988
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: footiechick on November 01, 2008, 09:03:38 PM
Does anyone know if the under20 tournement is on telly?
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 01, 2008, 09:53:40 PM
I think Eurosport has bought the tv right also FIFA.com will have highlights of every game as they do for the U17 competition.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on November 02, 2008, 08:14:11 AM
There are definitely some matches on Eurosport, some Norway group matches were listed in the Norwegian papers.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 02, 2008, 08:27:24 AM
Also FIFA was showing all U17 games live on their website, so there is hope they will do the same for the U20
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 09, 2008, 12:40:22 AM
They seem to just be showing a "matchcast" atm - and England are 1-0 down to Japan after 38 minutes.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 10, 2008, 12:18:42 PM
England flew yesterday via Madrid to Santiago, here are a few pics of the kits and other material

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 16, 2008, 12:04:34 AM
Sent via BA was it?

Shirts to Hong Kong, shorts to Capetown, boots to Moscow?  ;D
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Dr Gonzo on November 19, 2008, 03:54:17 PM
England flew yesterday via Madrid to Santiago, here are a few pics of the kits and other material

(https://www.womensfootball.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.imageshack.us%2Fimg291%2F4255%2Fdscf0401wc2.th.jpg&hash=d465e0ea86c34d03ed6be248c779748bef4f07eb) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0401wc2.jpg)
(https://www.womensfootball.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.imageshack.us%2Fimg291%2F7113%2Fdsc00807av8.th.jpg&hash=15add0416def4f0186f57613fea87392493da58e) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00807av8.jpg)
(https://www.womensfootball.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.imageshack.us%2Fimg291%2F4117%2Fdsc00806ky5.th.jpg&hash=478c6684f3a721eb928b0e68b9436dcd84b86254) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00806ky5.jpg)
(https://www.womensfootball.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.imageshack.us%2Fimg291%2F940%2Fdsc00805if6.th.jpg&hash=2ce662424f2704923dd5270bd49d80cb6bde4b35) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00805if6.jpg)
(https://www.womensfootball.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.imageshack.us%2Fimg291%2F1279%2Fdsc00804zv5.th.jpg&hash=12b318163945a46f98ae81382b1427b54ad47175) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00804zv5.jpg)


Who on earth was taking pics of the players kit?
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: pat51 on November 20, 2008, 02:01:37 AM
Well done to the team....what a start !
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: dowiefan on November 20, 2008, 10:38:53 AM
nice start ;D
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: OOH Fayefan on November 20, 2008, 10:40:49 AM
lets hope they can go a little further than the U 17's...
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on November 20, 2008, 12:21:33 PM
Excellent goals, particularly the first one. Well done girls!

Having watched some highlights of the games, the USA looked impressive as always.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: OOH Fayefan on November 20, 2008, 12:23:16 PM
yeah, they looked a very useful outfit.... :(
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on November 20, 2008, 09:32:16 PM
They looked assured and never likely to lose the game.  Maybe they watched the U-17s in New Zealand and made their minds up not to be upstaged by the little sisters . . another good match by England at the top level.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 20, 2008, 09:55:17 PM
Excellent start ;)

In case anyone's not noticed, the games can be seen live via Fifa.com.
Although it suddenly stopped coverage when Chile had that free kick right at the end. Well, did for me anyway :(
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: OOH Fayefan on November 20, 2008, 10:20:28 PM
on Eurosport too.....with Jen O'neill as co commentataor with that PITA Dave Farrar..
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 22, 2008, 08:29:57 PM
Same starting line-up tonight as it was vs Chile, I am surprised Houghton is not captain actually.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 22, 2008, 09:54:40 PM
Pretty flukey goal, but, a goal's a goal  ;D

Let's hope for England keep the lead ;)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on November 22, 2008, 11:05:24 PM
Sadly not... but they were unlucky on a few occasions, but played really well, especially Rebecca Spencer and Jess Clarke. Such a shame Jess' first shot didn't go in, would have been a spectacular goal.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: TempeBrennan on November 22, 2008, 11:14:51 PM
Yeah, I liked Rebecca Spencer in that match... seemed very calm and experienced - except for one unlucky shot :(

But 1-1 reflects the match quite well I think, both teams were absolutely equal.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 22, 2008, 11:15:40 PM
Fair result both goals a bit dodgy though.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on November 22, 2008, 11:23:41 PM
I wonder if Dowie's goal would have gone in without the touch from the goal keeper, where's hawk eye when you need it  :D
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 22, 2008, 11:34:54 PM
The only thin I find annoying is England are playing defensively when they have good players on the ball like Buet Rafferty Allen Duggan Clarke or Chaplen. More passing and movement could be a valuable option later in the tournament.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: TempeBrennan on November 22, 2008, 11:45:43 PM
More passing and movement could be a valuable option later in the tournament.

They definitely have to improve their passing... that was awful today and caused several dangerous situations. Passing was also too risky on several occasions, especially in the defence.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 23, 2008, 12:31:29 AM
More passing and movement could be a valuable option later in the tournament.

They definitely have to improve their passing... that was awful today and caused several dangerous situations. Passing was also too risky on several occasions, especially in the defence.
Yes - if we'd swapped goalies the score might have been totally different.

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: pat51 on November 23, 2008, 12:53:19 AM
Just watched the first half of the New Zealand match...what is clear is that Chile are the weakest team in the group and England are in for another hard test on Wednesday against another big, physical team with attacking potential. 2 - 0 at half time but that flatters Chile . The 15 year old Rosie White scored 2 to add to the hat-trick she scored in the under 17 tournament.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on November 23, 2008, 02:03:04 PM
Matches today (from the Norwegian Eurosport web site, should be reliable).  It looks a better web site than the UK one, i.e. it has not been outsourced yet :) so you get to see which matches are coming up.

18.00-20.00  Mexico v Brazil live
20.00-21.00  Norway v N.Korea highlights
21.00-23.00  Germany v Japan live
The times are UK.

www.eurosport.no
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: TempeBrennan on November 23, 2008, 02:16:11 PM
21.00-23.00  Germany v Japan live

This will be the match of the day I think... really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on November 24, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
 . . it was match of the day . . phenomenal play :)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on November 25, 2008, 11:56:53 AM
U-20 World Cup on Eurosport Wednesday:
0900-1000 Eurosport 2
1030-1215 Eurosport Nigeria v England
1900-2100 Eurosport 2 live match
2100-2200 Eurosport
2200-2400 Eurosport live England v New Zealand

U-20 World Cup on Eurosport Thursday:
0830-0930 Eurosport Nigeria v Chile
0930-1115 Eurosport Argentina v France
1215-1315 Eurosport
1300-1400 Eurosport 2
1400-1515 Eurosport 2
1815-1900 Eurosport England v New Zealand
1900-2100 Eurosport live Norway v Brazil
2045-2145 Eurosport 2
2100-2200 Eurosport
2200-2400 Eurosport live Germany v Canada

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on November 28, 2008, 11:18:26 PM
Nobody has said it yet so I'd better.  I think Eurosport has done a great job with both the World Cups, the U-17s in New Zealand and the U-20s in Chile. 

Usually people are quick to complain but Eurosport's commentaries have all been to a high standard, with good use of language, intelligent remarks and a lack of clichés throughout by Tim Caple, Jen O'Neill, Lucy Ward and Dave Farrar.

We often think we are the last to find out what's happening on Eurosport but sometimes the commentators have been left high and dry when things have been changed round without them having been told, but they have coped.  I am always the first to criticise Eurosport if they foul up but this time the coverage has been really good.  ;)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 28, 2008, 11:39:15 PM
I just wish Eurosport would join the freeview set-up.

It's not as if it's a subscriber service, is it?  :(

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: pat51 on November 29, 2008, 06:18:49 AM
Alan...well said, the whole thing has been excellent and the four main commentators have great...and fun to listen to, especially Jen and Lucy ...amazed that Eurosport has committed itself so fully to the tournaments . I'd add the coverage on fifa.com as an unexpected bonus.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on November 29, 2008, 06:36:32 AM
They are quite good as they know their stuff which is rare in womens footie  TV commentary.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 29, 2008, 10:01:20 PM
Alan...well said, the whole thing has been excellent and the four main commentators have great...and fun to listen to, especially Jen and Lucy ...amazed that Eurosport has committed itself so fully to the tournaments . I'd add the coverage on fifa.com as an unexpected bonus.
I discovered whilst chatting to Ron on the phone the other evening that Fifa.com is about 30 secs or so behind Eurosport. Ron has Eurosport and was watching the game there (as I was via Fifa.com) and was saying things which confused me at first, then I worked it out ;)

What's half a minute though, when so many games are never available to view?  8)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on November 30, 2008, 12:56:17 PM
Girls on film with Le Bon

Rock group Duran Duran paid a surprise visit to see the England Women's U20 team during the Santiago leg of their latest tour.

Simon Le Bon and his world-famous band, famous for songs such as Rio, Notorious and A View to a Kill, dropped in at the team hotel to wish them luck. England are preparing to face the USA in the Quarter-Finals of the World Cup in Chillan on Sunday night.

Some of the U20s staff met members of the band at a football match in Chile whilst they were preparing for their gig in the city.

Frontman Le Bon asked to meet the team and turned up at the hotel to offer the girls his support.

He spent time with Mo Marley's side and posed for piictures with the team and staff. You can watch the video of their meeting by clicking the link above.

After a last-gasp draw against New Zealand in their final group game, thanks to Toni Duggan's wonderful strike, England now play the USA on Sunday night kicking off at 10.00pm GMT. The game will be screened live on Eurosport.


video of them meeting Le Bon here:

http://www.thefa.com/Womens/EnglandU19/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/U20WC_USA_preview.htm (http://www.thefa.com/Womens/EnglandU19/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/U20WC_USA_preview.htm)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on November 30, 2008, 04:31:08 PM
Real tests for USA and Nigeria

The group phase was full of top-quality football and high drama, and the eight best teams at the FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup Chile 2008 are now through to the quarter-finals.


The first matches in the knock-out phase will be held in Coquimbo and Chillan on Sunday, with teams from three different confederations represented, including 2002 winners the USA. A whole host of the world's best junior players will be hoping to catch the eye and of course take another step towards the final.

The big match
USA-England, Chillan, 30 November, 19.00 (local time)

It is six years now since the United States won their only title at this age group - a long time for a country whose talent development system is seen as an example to others. Tony DiCicco's girls will be facing an England team who, like them, only conceded two goals in the group stages here at Chile 2008. The USA will need to improve on their last outing, where a sluggish performance in their final group match saw them lose 2-0 to China PR.

England, on the other hand, are riding a wave of euphoria from the last-minute goal against New Zealand which secured qualification. The Group A runners up will have their work cut out against Alex Morgan and Sydney Leroux, however, as the US strike duo have three goals and two assists to their names already. The Americans also won the dress rehearsal for this match back in February, when they beat England here in Chile 1-0 in a warm-up tournament.

The other match
Nigeria-France, Coquimbo, 30 November, 16.00 (local time)

This clash sees two of the surprise packages squaring off, and whoever wins will be in the semi-finals for the first time in their history. All eyes will be on the Nigerian attacking midfielder Rita Chikwelu, but she will have to be at her best if she is to outweigh the impact of French duo Eugenie Le Sommer and Marie-Laure Delie, who have four goals between them already.

That said, the France camp are unsure as to whether Delie will be able to play after she limped off with a thigh problem during their last group match - a 3-1 win over Argentina. This is the first time that the two countries will have met in this competition.

The stat
6 - The total number of goals on the only previous occasion that England and USA met at a FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup, in Canada in 2002. Unfortunately for England, USA managed five of those.


source: fifa.com http://www.fifa.com/u20womensworldcup/news/newsid=963838.html#real+tests+usa+nigeria (http://www.fifa.com/u20womensworldcup/news/newsid=963838.html#real+tests+usa+nigeria)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 30, 2008, 10:49:33 PM
If game carries on like this it will go to penalties - no-one really looks like scoring.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on November 30, 2008, 11:56:27 PM
If game carries on like this it will go to penalties - no-one really looks like scoring.
Well - USA did look like scoring in second half, so it ended 3-0 to them  :'(
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on December 01, 2008, 12:01:20 AM
Shame, England played really well first half.... but sadly World Cup 2007 flash back as the 3rd rolled past Spencer.  :-\ nevermind, well done ladies. A bright future for the game.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: twmcat on December 01, 2008, 12:24:14 AM
England girls are doing well at all levels in world football - it gives a bright hope for the future  ;)

England U20s might have got through to the semis if they'd got just one more goal in the drawn games in the group stages and avoided USA.
But, give them credit for what they have done  ;)

Btw - I noticed a player complaining early on about foul throws, and there were certainly a few by USA after that.
Maybe this isn't the place to bring it up, but it is getting prevelant in football these days,and nothing seems to be done about it  >:(

Laws of the game state that:

Procedure

At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower:

faces the field of play
has part of each foot either on the touch line or on the ground outside the touch line
uses both hands
delivers the ball from behind and over his head


Ignoring "his" for the moment - have you noticed how frequently the ball is thrown from almost in front of the face?  >:(
Title: Squad quality ?
Post by: shlj on December 01, 2008, 12:56:21 PM
Well Mo Marley used 12 players basically for the whole tournament.
Moore and Hall sharing 35 minutes between each other and 7 unlucky players getting nothing and all of them but Hinnigan being defensive position.
England started the same 11 for all 4 games, put Rachel Williams 4 times in around the 60th minutes and sometimes put Moore or/and Hall late in the game. Seems like there was not a lot of trust put on the subs and only two attacking options on the bench for the whole tournament ( Hall and Moore).
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Gooner on December 01, 2008, 01:22:09 PM
I was :o Gilly didn't play in any of the matches. She is considered good enough to start the season in Arsenal's first team but cannot make the England u20 team
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on December 01, 2008, 01:47:41 PM
I was :o Gilly didn't play in any of the matches. She is considered good enough to start the season in Arsenal's first team but cannot make the England u20 team
Maybe the England U20 playing standard is higher than Arsenal one  :o ??? but I don't think so.
Title: quotes from the managers
Post by: shlj on December 02, 2008, 08:14:51 AM

Mo Marley, England coach
I thought it was a very even game up to half-time. We had a lot of possession, but the situation changed in the second half when we lost our rhythm and they really made us pay with their strength at set-pieces. I am happy we reached the quarter-finals, and at this level you've got to take your chances. That's what makes the difference. I thought we got our tactics right, though, and containing USA for 45 minutes is a big achievement.

Tony DiCicco, USA coach
England were a very good side, very well drilled, and they forced us to change our style of play. If they had scored first, it would have been a different match. We took control of the match once we started to control possession, and I just wish we could play all our games in Chillan because we feel at home here. I am happy we've made it to the semi-finals, and whoever we play they are bound to be a very strong side.

http://www.fifa.com/u20womensworldcup/matches/round=250261/match=300066380/quotes.html

I always suspected than Mo Marley like Hope Powell was building a counter attacking side aiming at nullyfying the opposition threat, trying to nick one on the counter. To be fair, it is an excellent tactic if you score first. When they  don't England does seem to have problem to come from behind against big side ( The U17 did it though ).
it feels like there is a lack of ambitious gameplan to reach the next level.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Gooner on December 02, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
I always suspected Mo Marley was building a counter attacking side aiming at nullyfying the opposition threat, trying to nick one on the counter. To be fair, it is an excellent tactic if you score first. When they  don't England does seem to have problem to come from behind against big side ( The U17 did it though ).
it feels like there is a lack of ambitious gameplan to reach the next level.

Mo uses this tactic when Everton face Arsenal.  I bet Vic wouldn't do it this way.  It is frustrating to see England play this way as this tactic means the players are not always able to express themselves as much.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Dr Gonzo on December 02, 2008, 01:55:02 PM
A shame really a if Hope Powell moves on after the Euro finals Mo maybe the one to replace her and it would probably be more of the same....
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on December 02, 2008, 02:31:45 PM
A shame really a if Hope Powell moves on after the Euro finals Mo maybe the one to replace her and it would probably be more of the same....
That would be a rubbish move by the FA to be honest.
Attacking football should be the way forward, it's true defensive football can win tournaments ( France 98, Italy 2006, Greece 2004 ) but I am not sure womens can sustain the same kind of physical pressure over a whole tournament.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Gooner on December 02, 2008, 04:09:35 PM
A coach like Emma Hayes would be the way to go
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on December 02, 2008, 04:21:52 PM
A coach like Emma Hayes would be the way to go

lets start the campaign now  ;)

I will be interested to see how many, if any of the U17 or U20's Hope takes to Finland next year. I'd like to know who impressed her.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: shlj on December 02, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
I'd be surprise to see a U17 going there.
I would like to see Whelan, Dowie, Buet, and Houghton plus Gemma Davison  from the U23 and see some of the old guard discarded and leave the new generation take the power.

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on December 22, 2008, 02:48:04 PM
Kerys still buzzing after football success

9:40am Monday 22nd December 2008


FOOTBALL star Kerys Harrop is still buzzing from the excitement of a trip of a lifetime to Chile where she played for England in the Women's Under-20 World Cup.

The 18-year-old student at King Edward VI College in Stourbridge was one of the youngest members of the England squad - which played in front of near 20,000-strong crowds in the early group stages of the tournament.

The England team reached the quarter finals before being knocked out by the eventual winners, the USA.

On top of her sporting success, Kerys (pictured) also rubbed shoulders with Duran Duran’s legendary lead singer Simon Le Bon - who was keen to meet the team during a break from the band's South American tour.

Kerys, who lives in Halesowen, said: "He asked us if we were enjoying the experience and how we were getting on.

“I found we had something in common as I play for Birmingham City Ladies FC and he said Birmingham is where Duran Duran was formed, whilst he was at university there."

Kerys, who is studying for A levels in human biology, physical education, psychology and general studies, has been playing for England for nearly a year now - making steady progress through the ranks.

She also recently picked up the Dudley Schools Sports Association Westfield Trophy for outstanding sporting excellence in honour of her accomplishments.

http://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/news/3991283.Kerys_still_buzzing_after_football_success/ (http://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/news/3991283.Kerys_still_buzzing_after_football_success/)
Title: 2008 review
Post by: shlj on February 11, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
It has been a very busy 2008 for England Women's U19s after competing in European and World Finals.

Mo Marley's side have faced no fewer than 20 games this year as they first completed qualification for the 2008 UEFA European Championship Finals in France during July, before kicking off their next Euro campaign and travelling half-way across the globe for the FIFA World Cup.

Their year would start and end in Chile with defeats to USA as February saw them acclimatise to the conditions in South America during a mini-tournament, but after three games they returned with just a draw to show for their toil.

Another mini-tournament, this time in Spain in March was preparation for the European Championship Second Qualifying Round. Two defeats at a victory in La Manga didn't dampen their spirit as, in April, three wins in Poland against the hosts, Belgium and Iceland set them on their way to the Finals.

One last match at the end of the 2007-08 campaign yeilded another win, 3-0 over Italy, to boost confidence ahead of the Finals in France.

However, when July arrived, defeat to Germany in their opening game meant they needed to win both of their remaining games to progress to the knock out stages.

England celebrate their 3-1 victory over Scotland.A win against Scotland put them in a good position and when one of their star players of 2008, Toni Duggan, put them 1-0 up early in their last group game against Sweden, things were looking good.

However, a late Louise Fors penalty earned a draw for the Swedes to send them through and England out.

In Septmeber a new Euro campaign started and two wins and a draw during the First Qualification Round has set up a place in the second stage early in 2009.

But arguably the highlight of the year was in Chile as they rounded off a good year at the World Cup.

It was actually their performance at the UEFA European U19 Championship in Iceland in 2007 that saw England book their place at the World Cup in November.

Mo Marley had a number of experienced players to call upon when they headed to South America with the FIFA tournament open to U20s, the majority of whom formed part of the successful team that reached the Final in Finland before narrowly missing out to Germany in extra-time.

And after waiting over a year to perform on the world stage Mo Marley's players showed what they have to offer.

They started well, brushing aside the hosts 2-0 with Brooke Chaplen and Duggan on the score sheet.

The second game was much tougher against a Nigeria side who had already beaten New Zealand. The game ended 1-1 and with Chile losing to New Zealand, England knew a point in their last game against the Kiwis would put them in the last eight.

But New Zealand had other ideas and took a 27th minute lead thorugh Sarah McLaughlin. Marley was sweating, as The Three Lions threw everything they had at their opponents.

And it finally paid off in the last minute. Duggan stood tall taking hold of her team's destiny.

On the edge of the box, she held off a defender to open up the space and drill into the top corner of the net, via the post to save England and line up a Quarter-Final showdown against the USA.

But just as her team begun 2008 they ended it with defeat to USA. The 3-0 scoreline somewhat flattered the Americans, who went on to lift the World Cup, but England's efforts highlighted a real potential for the future.


http://www.thefa.com/Womens/EnglandU19/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/WU19_Review2008.htm
Title: FIFA technical report available
Post by: shlj on February 28, 2009, 11:15:55 PM
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/technicaldevp/01/02/16/29/reportfwu20wcchile08_0226.pdf

A good read as usual with those
Title: England U20 Training Camp Squad
Post by: Sylvain on January 01, 2010, 10:02:16 PM
A 24-strong squad has been selected for the England Under-20 training camp in the new year.

Arsenal have five representatives in the squad, Leeds Carnegie and Sunderland four each.

The camp is to be held in Manchester from the 11th-15th January 2010.

England U20 Training Camp Squad
GOALKEEPERS:
Ashley Baker - University of Georgia
Rebecca Spencer - Arsenal
Lauren Davey - Watford
Rachel Laws - Sunderland
DEFENDERS:
Gemma Bonner - Leeds Carnegie
Lucy Bronze - Sunderland
Gilly Flaherty - Arsenal
Kerys Harrop - Birmingham City
Jodie Jacobs - Chelsea
Chelsea Weston - Doncaster Rovers Belles
Melissa Sutcliffe - Leeds Carnegie
Lindsay Cunningham - Nottingham Forest
MIDFIELDERS:
Remi Allen - Leeds Carnegie
Isobel Christiansen - Birmingham City
Laura Coombs - Arsenal
Michelle Hinnigan - Everton
Jessica Holbrook - Everton
Jordan Nobbs - Sunderland
Abbie Prosser - Arsenal
FORWARDS:
Toni Duggan - Everton
Lauren Bruton - Arsenal
Jade Moore - Leeds Carnegie
Demi Stokes - Sunderland
Sarah Kempson - Chelsea
ON STANDBY:
Naomi Chadwick - Doncaster Rovers Belles

http://www.fgmag.com/news/index.php?&newsmode=FULL&nid=7282

You can bet the final squad for the World Cup will be in those 24, it contains all the UEFA U19 winners plus players who had U17 AND U20 WC experience.

Germany have also announced an U20 friendly in April the 21st ( only auf Deutsch version of website due to usual behind closed door at Bisham Abbey I guess  ;) )

http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=12955
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on March 17, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
The friendly versus Germany has been announced, it will be played in Leicester.

http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=12955
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Rach_83 on March 21, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
Interesting, that fixture is same day as B'ham county cup final....with 2 very important players in that squad  :-\
Title: Trio selected for England U20 training camp
Post by: Sylvain on April 04, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
Sunderland's Rachael Laws, Jordan Nobbs and Demi Stokes have all been selected in the latest England Women's U20 training camp (including a match against Germany).

The camp will take place in Leicester from 18-21 April 2010.

Sunderland Women’s FC wish every success to all girls.


http://www.sunderlandwfc.co.uk/swfc_331.htm
Title: Chelsea Named In U20 Training Camp
Post by: Sylvain on April 04, 2010, 08:33:42 PM
Doncaster Rovers Belles defender Chelsea Weston has today been called up in to Mo Marley's England Under 20 squad for the upcoming international friendly with Germany.

Marley's team face the Germans later this month as they look towards what is a busy 2010, with more games to come through the summer and she has named a squad of 26 players for the game and three days of training before that.

The camp and game will be in Leicester from the 18th - 21st April 2010.

Fellow defender Naomi Chadwick has been placed on standby for the young lions camp.

ENGLAND UNDER 20 SQUAD

GK’s:

Ashley Baker University of Georgia

Rebecca Spencer Arsenal LFC

Lauren Davey Watford LFC

Rachel Laws Sunderland AFC Ladies

DEFENDERS:

Gemma Bonner Leeds Carnegie

Gilly Flaherty Arsenal LFC

Kerys Harrop Birmingham City LFC

Jodie Jacobs Chelsea LFC

Chelsea Weston DONCASTER ROVERS BELLES LFC

Melissa Sutcliffe Leeds Carnegie

Lyndsey Cunningham Nottingham Forest LFC

Naomi Cole Arsenal LFC

Jemma Rose Birmingham City LFC

Steph Marsh Everton LFC

Shelby Hills Chelsea LFC

MIDFIELD:

Jade Moore Leeds Carnegie

Michelle Hinnigan Everton LFC

Jessica Holbrook Everton LFC

Jordan Nobbs Sunderland AFC Ladies

Abbie Prosser Arsenal LFC

FORWARDS:

Toni Duggan Everton LFC

Lauren Bruton Arsenal LFC

Demi Stokes Sunderland AFC Ladies

Sarah Kempston Chelsea LFC

Isobel Christiansen Birmingham City LFC

Rebecca Jane Chelsea LFC

STANDBY:

Naomi Chadwick DONCASTER ROVERS BELLES LFC

http://www.doncasterroversbelles.co.uk/home.php?section=OPE&category=FTE&subcat=news&action=full&id=469
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on April 04, 2010, 08:41:09 PM
Players for the World Cup in Germany must be born after the 01/01/90 and the final 21 will probably be in that 26 squad list.
The World Cup this year is taking place from the 13th of July to the 1st of August. For the players born in 1990 and those  not taking part in the Euros,
it means nearly 2 full months of training without games in May June and early July.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on April 24, 2010, 01:16:19 AM
Training match against Germany cancelled as German team did not travel and played at home against Frankfurt. The U20 lost a friendly against the U23 by 2 goals to 1.
Title: La Manga Lions
Post by: Sylvain on June 08, 2010, 07:53:52 PM
England Women’s U20s
Acclimatisation Training Camp
20-26 June 2010
La Manga, Spain

In preparation for the upcoming FIFA U20 Women’s World Cup, England Head Coach Mo Marley will take 24 players to La Manga for an acclimatisation training camp on 20 June.

Of the 24, 15 helped England reach the Final of the UEFA European Women’s U19 Championship in Macedonia last week and in Ashley Baker, Rebecca Spencer, Kerys Harrop, Chelsea Weston, Toni Duggan and Jade Moore, Marley’s squad boasts six players who featured in the U20 World Cup in 2008.

The World Cup gets underway in July and it is being staged in Germany. England have been drawn in Group C alongside Nigeria (who the Three Lions will face on 14 July), Mexico (17 July) and Japan (21 July).

Squad in full

Ashley Baker, University of Georgia

Rebecca Spencer, Arsenal

Lauren Davey, Watford

Kerys Harrop, Birmingham City

Melissa Sutcliffe, Leeds Carnegie

Gemma Bonner, Leeds Carnegie

Lucy Bronze, Sunderland

Chelsea Weston, Doncaster Rovers Belles

Lyndsey Cunningham, Nottingham Forest

Shelby Hills, Chelsea

Isobel Christiansen, Birmingham City

Michelle Hinnigan, Everton

Jessica Holbrook, Everton

Jordan Nobbs, Sunderland

Abbie Prosser, Arsenal

Drew Spence, Chelsea

Toni Duggan, Everton

Demi Stokes, Sunderland

Lucy Staniforth, Sunderland

Danielle Carter, Arsenal

Lauren Bruton, Arsenal

Jade Moore, Leeds Carnegie

Lara Fay, Arsenal

Rebecca Jane, Chelsea

http://www.thefa.com/England/womens-u19s/News/2010/LaMangaJune

Coombs and Flaherty from Arsenal and  Rose from Birmingham  not selected following their Euro injuries. ???
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on June 27, 2010, 02:18:12 AM
England squad announcement on Monday apparently.
Mo Marley has started ringing players to give them the good/bad news.
Surprising squad as some Euro 2009 winner from last season have been left out of the final 21.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: samtom on June 27, 2010, 10:47:07 PM
How can managers be objective when they run club sides ie mo marley of everton.reanne thomas has been one of the best players in womens prem this season yet can't break into u20 squad.she is now going to play in the us on a Scholarship.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on June 27, 2010, 11:01:40 PM
If the players in her position are better than her, there is nothing to say really. If an Everton player is chosen ahead of her and is obviously not better than her, then there would be a problem but most Everton players selected for England U19 are good or excellent like Tony Duggan.
I think 3 finals in 4 years show Mo Marley knows what she is doing and who she is selecting is correct.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on June 28, 2010, 02:29:38 PM
Arsenal.com announced Spencer, Flaherty, Prosser and Carter selected for the World Cup. Bruton and Fay not selected in the final 21 from the La Manga squad.

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on June 29, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
So 21 players selected some positions are doubled or tripled and some have no back up (? )

GK : Baker Spencer Davey
RB : Weston Cunningham
LB : Flaherty
RCB : Bonner Bronze Hills
LCB : Harrop
DM : Prosser
CM : Holbrook
AM : Nobbs Hinnigan
RW : Moore Christiansen Staniforth
CF: Duggan Carter Jane
LW : Stokes

Seems to me that the left side of the team is weak in number but not in quality.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Aphrodites Child on June 29, 2010, 03:34:38 PM
How can managers be objective when they run club sides ie mo marley of everton.reanne thomas has been one of the best players in womens prem this season yet can't break into u20 squad.she is now going to play in the us on a Scholarship.

it can be a catch-22 situation with players shining because they are playing with better players around them

the fact that Nottingham Forest have Lyndsey Cunningham selected is surely an indication that Forest were watched and hence one assumes Reanne's form was also noted

there are other players whose form has been impressive in recent years who have also been surprisingly overlooked

the only certainty is that Forest will miss a player of Reanne's calibre
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 06, 2010, 12:13:27 AM
Friendly today as per the FA.com :
England U23 - England U20  3-0  :o
Goals by Longhurst, Cantrell and Bird.
FA.com will have some highlights tomorrow according to their twitter.
Title: Experienced Lions ready for Finals
Post by: Sylvain on July 06, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
The England Women’s U20s team meet up on Monday as they begin their assault on the World Cup.

Having qualified for the Finals thanks to the European Championship success at U19 level in Belarus a year ago, Mo Marley’s side will head to Germany next week full of confidence.

The squad of 21 features 19 who have already earned big tournament experience in either European competition or the 2008 World Cup in Chile. The UEFA European Women’s U19s title a year ago was sandwiched between a quarter-final spot in Chile, where they lost to eventual winners USA, and this year’s European Championship, where England were losing Finalists.

And as Marley prepares to get her team together next week, she says that their international experience can only have a benefit during the campaign.

“Most of the players have been involved in European or World Finals,” Marley told TheFA.com, “so they’ll have the experience and know what is expected of them in this environment.

“We’re looking at the first task which is our opening game against Nigeria. We’re fortunate to have played against them two years ago in Chile and we’ll be better prepared as a team from those experiences last time around.

“That’s the excitement of playing in a World Cup, playing against teams you wouldn’t regularly play and be able to test yourself against them.”

As well as Nigeria, who the Three Lions meet in Augsburg on 14 July, they also line up in Group C with Mexico and Japan.

The team recently spent a week at a training camp in La Manga, Spain to prepare for the Finals, as Marley explains.

“It was a week where we could train and work on a few things together as a team,” she said.

“We looked at team-building, worked on possession play and defending and also played a behind closed doors training match.

“It allowed us to set down the foundations of our expectations for the players and for what it will take for the team to succeed. You can’t leave it to chance when you get into the competition itself and these things have to be looked at in advance.

“We’ve got a very tough group and we know there are things we have to tune up ready for the matches. We’ll be playing against some of the best teams in the world and will have to make sure our standards are the highest possible when we are out there.

“But we’re trying to master our own strategy at the moment and then we'll look at the research we’ve done on the opposition.”

England will play a final behind closed doors game against Brent Hills’ England Under-23s team on Monday before heading out to their training base in Augsburg on Tuesday.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 06, 2010, 04:01:30 PM
How can managers be objective when they run club sides ie mo marley of everton.reanne thomas has been one of the best players in womens prem this season yet can't break into u20 squad.she is now going to play in the us on a Scholarship.
The U19 team had 1 Forrest player at the Euros playing in midfield and 1 Forrest defender so it's not like Mo Marley did not have a look at the Forrest team.
Also in the Euro program that I brought back from Macedonia is the England pre-list of players given to UEFA before the competition.
There are about 25 name and a player born on the 13.06.91 playing in midfield is there...
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 06, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
The U20s and the U23s played each other in a training match and there are some highlights on TheFA.com -

http://www.thefa.com/video/England/Womens-U20s/England-WU20s-v-U23s (U20s in White)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 06, 2010, 05:26:59 PM
It is not easy to recognise the players. 
They filmed at ground level instead of the usual tower where you can see the shape of the team.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 06, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
It is not easy to recognise the players.  
They filmed at ground level instead of the usual tower where you can see the shape of the team.


No, it isn't the best of quality tbh. I only recognised a couple of players during the action and one of those (Lucy Staniforth) plays for Sunderland so I know her well.

The U20s were unlucky though, hitting the crossbar and having a penalty saved  :D And the U23s look decent. I think the future of the English National team is looking good.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 06, 2010, 06:26:29 PM
Hope Powell and the people looking after the women at the FA  have been working very hard to structure the England senior and Youth teams and the recent  results are a deserved reward for what all that work has been going on behind the scenes for years now.   
Now they just need to have the "older players" progressively replaced in the coming years.
Title: Squad numbers
Post by: Sylvain on July 06, 2010, 06:55:42 PM
England
1    Rebecca Spencer
2    Chelsea Weston
3    Gilly Flaherty
4    Jade Moore
5    Gemma Bonner
6    Kerys Harrop
7    Jessica Holbrook
8    Jordan Nobbs
9    Toni Duggan
10    Michelle Hinnigan
11    Demi Stokes
12    Lyndsey Cunningham
13    Lauren Davey
14    Abbie Prosser
15    Lucy Bronze
16    Shelby Hills
17    Isobel Christiansen
18    Rebecca Jane
19    Danielle Carter
20    Lucy Staniforth
21    Ashley Baker

So we can infer that the starting 11 will probably be

              Spencer
Weston Bonner Harrop Flaherty
         Holbrook Nobbs
Moore     Hinnigan     Stokes
              Duggan
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: PFA_GMF on July 12, 2010, 03:19:23 PM
Interview with Mo Marley ahead of the World Cup:

http://www.givemefootball.com/pfa/pfa-news/england-ladies-are-better-prepared-than-ever-befor
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on July 14, 2010, 12:17:44 AM
In the U-20 World Cup England-Nigeria (live) is on Eurosport 2 on Wednesday morning at 10.30.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 14, 2010, 12:14:58 PM
The England line-up is surprising in two positions

Spencer
Weston
Moore
Harrop
Holbrook
Nobbs
Duggan
Hinnigan
Cunningham
Bronze
Christiansen
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Billy Hunt on July 14, 2010, 01:12:51 PM
so far Nigeria's best chances have come from England's misplaced passes.. And England have had only two chances both from range.. IMHO
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Dr Gonzo on July 14, 2010, 03:57:15 PM
Nigeria came back in the second half to make it 1-1....seems Eurosport lost the pictures just before the equalizer in echos of the England USA game in South Africa...ha
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 14, 2010, 07:23:52 PM
So was the final score 1-1 peeps? Is there a write up anywhere I could read as I was at work  :'(
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: pat51 on July 14, 2010, 07:39:24 PM
http://www.fifa.com/u20womensworldcup/matches/round=253537/match=300125158/summary.html   
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Billy Hunt on July 14, 2010, 07:46:20 PM
well taken headed goal by Harrop although she wss unmarkef, Nobbs foiled one on one when she took an age to shoot so when she attempted a well timed tackle from the side thwarted her effort. Nigeria from what we saw dominated 2nd half, mainly due to England's failure to keep the ball when they had decent possession. In my opinion some players with big reputations didn't show up, but perhaps thats because of their ages. Please disagree at will and we can debate.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 14, 2010, 07:53:57 PM
I think the warm weather explains their struggle as well.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 14, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
Cheers guys. Sounds like a combination of the heat and some players under performing but hopefully they can get a win on Saturday against Mexico.

Is it on Eurosport again? I'm off Saturday so a few cans and the match would be a nice way to spend the afternoon  :)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Billy Hunt on July 14, 2010, 09:16:37 PM
Cheers guys. Sounds like a combination of the heat and some players under performing but hopefully they can get a win on Saturday against Mexico.

Is it on Eurosport again? I'm off Saturday so a few cans and the match would be a nice way to spend the afternoon  :)
so far even if they haven't been on live they have been shown later on.. Apart from tonights advertised 5.30 game couldn't find that one on any channel just got motogp and tour de france ???
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: pat51 on July 14, 2010, 09:26:04 PM
http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/    live at 5  on Saturday with the USA match on the second channel (unless the Tour goes slow like today and they go over late....)
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 14, 2010, 09:26:23 PM
You can also jump on a plane to Munich, it is not far away an hour fifity minutes flight. Game tickets starts at 2.50 Euros
The game is  live on FIFA.com Video player alternatively.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 15, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
In my opinion some players with big reputations didn't show up, but perhaps thats because of their ages.
Highlights showed loads of dangerous situation for Nigeria which suggests problem in the balance of the team postionning especially when the ball is lost?
13 shots to 4 says it all. I wonder why Gilly is not playing as she would give more stability to the side. Same with Abbie who is a proper defensive midfielder
unlike all the other midfielder used who are eother number 8 or number 10 type.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Aphrodites Child on July 15, 2010, 01:08:23 PM
In my opinion some players with big reputations didn't show up, but perhaps thats because of their ages.

not got eurosport so not seen game

but some players with big reputations didn't show up ... if that is correct, then it seems there is an epidemic affecting players wearing England shirt as witnessed globaly over the last month or so
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 15, 2010, 01:36:52 PM
Who has a big reputation in U20 team, 2 players one of them on the bench.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Billy Hunt on July 15, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
I don't want name names, but the cf may as well have been sitting with me along with an highly rated cm.. I have seen both play better, Imho of course
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 15, 2010, 02:15:41 PM
You don't like the Everton players  ???
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Billy Hunt on July 15, 2010, 02:20:08 PM
I didn't rate certain players performances as acceptable of the standard.. I disliked nobody or no one..
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Alan on July 16, 2010, 12:27:05 PM
Today:
15.15 Brazil v Sweden, Eurosport 2 (45 minutes live, strangely followed by a recording of an old match),
17.00 Germany v Colombia, Eurosport (follows a long Tour de France session so probably a late start to the coverage),
17.00 New Zealand v North Korea (live in full) Eurosport 2.
http://tv.eurosport.co.uk
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Johnny Ramone on July 16, 2010, 01:23:52 PM
England continue to play without a Centre-Forward.  Duggan, an outstanding wide player flits around the front-line, but without a focal point to play off, she ends up playing deeper and deeper.  The team needs a Dowie / White type player for Duggan to play-off. 4-3-3 often becomes 4-5-1, they'd be better playing 4-3-1-1.  Duggan playing in the hole behind a Centre-Forward /  No.9 type striker.  Not sure they have that type of player in the squad. England teams of all ages seem to rely on goals from midfield. England haven't had an outstanding No.9 type centre-forward since Karen Walker retired.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 17, 2010, 01:02:18 PM
Over the last 4 years Hope Powell has taken the option of the fast center forward while the the option of a strong and powerful one was available.
Recent history have proven with Barcelona or Spain than winning can be achieved that way as well.
Danielle Carter is the typical English CF in the squad
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 18, 2010, 12:00:11 AM
Some strange choice from Mo Marley today  ???
Weston at left back, Moore defensive midfield, substituting Stokes instead of Hinnigan or Christiansen plus a
very late substitution too late to have a real impact. In term of late substitution it does not beat Lauren Bruton's introduction in the 121st
minute in the U19 semin-final against Holland  ;D Poor girl never made the pitch.
 Strange goal to oal to give away as well.
Regarding the back four, I expected Weston Bronze Harrop Flaherty as per the previous use of the players and we got Bronze Flaherty Harrop Weston.
Nothing wrong there they had fine individual performances but playing Weston on the left does not maximise her potential
while it was a welcomed news to see Gilly finally played at center back.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 18, 2010, 07:26:24 AM
What I found strange is Duggan dezoning is ok but it seems that the team balance gets wrong because the attacking midfielder behind her is not very useful in that situation. Mo Marley only adressed the problem very late by putting Carter on.
Also, why Abbie prosser is not on the pitch is really  ??? to put Jade Moore in that position really restricts her attacking and percussion ability. She is also sometimes a couple of yards too high and it could have been dangerous. It is really strange because she is so good going forward it did not make sense to keep her on a leash like this. 

It is really a shame because the England team was dominating for most of the first half, with excellent passing, movement one or two touch football and then  mexico made a substitution and changed the game a bit.
Title: Bonner still backing England
Post by: Sylvain on July 21, 2010, 12:53:54 PM
Gemma Bonner has already been involved in one major tournament this summer, the UEFA Women’s U19s European Championship.

The Leeds Carnegie defender played in all but one of England’s games as they reached the Final in Macedonia and her fine performances were rewarded with a place in Mo Marley’s U20 World Cup squad that currently face a crucial final group game against Japan today.

With just one point from their first two games, The Three Lions must now beat their Asian opposition and hope for a positive result in the other Group C game between Mexico and Nigeria if they are to progress into the knockout stages.

Bonner, however, believes the high pressure situation has not affected the team’s focus.

[The mood’s] good, we’re staying positive and we know what we need to do,” the 19-year-old told TheFA.com. “We’re just focusing on ourselves. We know what we’ve got to do and we just have to make sure that we do it.

“We go out to win every game and we don’t expect to lose any, so this game is no different. We know we’ve got to win.”

That positive attitude will need to run throughout the squad if the Three Lions are to overcome a Japan side that have shown a significant threat despite only picking up one point at the tournament so far.

“We watch videos and research each team before we play them and this game’s no different, so I’m sure we’ll view them and work out where we can win the game and what we need to do,” said Bonner. “So it will just be the same procedure we go through before every other game.

“We’ve put in good performances, it’s just that cutting edge that we’ve lacked, just the finishing touch, because we’ve pretty much had all the possession in the [previous] games but just not had the finishing touch which is obviously what you need.”

Although Gemma is yet to get any game time in Germany, she is confident in the side’s ability and coach Marley’s comprehensive approach to preparation. But with her recent experience of tournament football, Bonner will certainly be ready for action if called upon.

“Everyone wants to play but you leave team selection down to the manager, and we all trust in the manager that she’ll make the right decisions.

“It’s really helped playing in a major European Championship before coming to the World Cup, as it builds up your confidence, you get game time and experience, and get to know the tournaments as well as your team-mates.

“Every tournament is prestigious with England but obviously with the World Cup you’re on the world stage. We’re training every day with the best players in England and getting the best coaching makes you a better player.

“Everyone is enjoying [the experience]. We’re all staying positive and we’re looking to stay in the competition and go further – and hopefully win it.


http://www.thefa.com/England/womens-u20s/News/2010/GemmaBonner_200710


Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 21, 2010, 01:00:20 PM
Let's see if Mo Marley selects an attacking team or a conservative/unbalanced one like the previous one.
Of course a win is needed but also considering the attacking potential of the Japanese a certain balance has to be kept
otherwise the same stuff as in England Germany men's game will happen ie attacking with 7 or 8 players at the time and
deathly counter attack.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 21, 2010, 03:00:13 PM
Oh well, same line-up as against Mexico  :o

Spencer- Bronze Flaherty Harrop Weston - Moore Nobbs- Christiansen Hinnigan Stokes- Duggan
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: John on July 21, 2010, 04:29:20 PM
At the moment it looks like England will end up bottom of the group :o

Latest: Japan 1-0 England, Nigeria 1-0 Mexico
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 21, 2010, 05:16:24 PM
Considering the amount of talent in that team that would be a big FAIL  :o
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 21, 2010, 05:40:54 PM
Absolutely terrible. Someone's got to be responsible and answerable because this is terrible. Japan just gone 3-0 up  :-\

Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 21, 2010, 06:00:11 PM
Strange campaign really : 1 point, 1 draw no wins 2 goal for 5 against.
Some of the players will definitely play for the senior team and others for the U23 but for some it was probably their last ever England game.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Eurycantha on July 21, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Is it coincidence that both European U19 finalists (France and England) in Macedonia are out, without in fact playing one good match at the WWC in Germany?

Too tired?
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 21, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Well I'm not sure about the France situation but whilst the England girls were almost certainly playing tired that isn't the whole reason.

I'm afraid Mo has to shoulder some the blame for some questionable selection and tactics - regardless of this maybe sounding harsh because of past success, she has to take the rough with the smooth. And the FA... I mean come on there's plenty of girls under 20 playing high level football in England, surely we don't have to depend on playing some of the same girls in the U19s and the U20s. The very fact we do at this stage shows there's a problem at grass roots level.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: John on July 21, 2010, 10:14:13 PM
And the FA... I mean come on there's plenty of girls under 20 playing high level football in England, surely we don't have to depend on playing some of the same girls in the U19s and the U20s. The very fact we do at this stage shows there's a problem at grass roots level.

The FA did not pick the squad.

The majority of the players were the same as for the u-19s because they are regarded as the most talented of the players available to the manager at this level.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 21, 2010, 10:54:15 PM
And the FA... I mean come on there's plenty of girls under 20 playing high level football in England, surely we don't have to depend on playing some of the same girls in the U19s and the U20s. The very fact we do at this stage shows there's a problem at grass roots level.

The FA did not pick the squad.

The majority of the players were the same as for the u-19s because they are regarded as the most talented of the players available to the manager at this level.

Erm... where did i say the FA picked the squad? Seriously dude if you're gonna reply to me read what i've actually wrote. I said the FA's blame in this farce was the fact they didn't support the game enough from grass root level to be able to have enough players to select for both the U19s and the U20s level. It doesn't matter about how highly talented they are - that's been the problem, depending too much on 'big players' to play for both levels.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: John on July 21, 2010, 11:33:04 PM
Erm... where did i say the FA picked the squad?

Well that is how I interpreted it when I read it the first time around.

I said the FA's blame in this farce was the fact they didn't support the game enough from grass root level to be able to have enough players to select for both the U19s and the U20s level. It doesn't matter about how highly talented they are - that's been the problem, depending too much on 'big players' to play for both levels.

The FA do support the game at all levels of the game.  The squad picked at u-19 and u-20 level was virtually the same because of the small age gap between the two.  It would have been a lot different had it been the u-20s and u-23s.

Of course England should pick a squad based on the ability rather than on availability and freshness of the players.  A country should not just hand out caps to players just because they meet the requirement of being under a certain age.  A player wants to be picked to play for the national team because they merit it and not for other reasons.  Mo’s u-19 and u-20 squads were the same because there are not many talented players eligible for the u-20s but not the u-19s.

You represent your country because you are regarded as the best at that level.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 22, 2010, 01:11:09 PM
Erm... where did i say the FA picked the squad?

Well that is how I interpreted it when I read it the first time around.

I said the FA's blame in this farce was the fact they didn't support the game enough from grass root level to be able to have enough players to select for both the U19s and the U20s level. It doesn't matter about how highly talented they are - that's been the problem, depending too much on 'big players' to play for both levels.

The FA do support the game at all levels of the game.  The squad picked at u-19 and u-20 level was virtually the same because of the small age gap between the two.  It would have been a lot different had it been the u-20s and u-23s.

Of course England should pick a squad based on the ability rather than on availability and freshness of the players.  A country should not just hand out caps to players just because they meet the requirement of being under a certain age.  A player wants to be picked to play for the national team because they merit it and not for other reasons.  Mo’s u-19 and u-20 squads were the same because there are not many talented players eligible for the u-20s but not the u-19s.

You represent your country because you are regarded as the best at that level.

Not really working though is it John?

OK they got to the Euros final but did so by not actually playing very well, but managing to win games. Then they didn't even make it out of the group stages of the U20 WC. How can you even argue that the system they have in place is ok? There should either be a larger gap between levels or a completely different squad for the U19s and U20s (ok maybe a few players could play for both but not the amount that does now). It clearly doesn't work, and proof of that is in the last 2 tourneys. I would rather have more youngsters playing for England nice and fresh and not tired than the same players playing for both the U19s and the U20s and not performing because they're tired. It's a no brainer.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 22, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
I think they are not many girls born in 1990 who were playing in the National/Northern/Southern division to choose from.
So that would not make it easy for Mo Marley to pick up the 1990 players.
From the non Euro players she selected Weston, Moore Harrop and Hinnigan from 1990, Staniforth from 1991 and Carter from 1993.

For example, for 1990 I found only 2 players at Arsenal ! one of them is our 3rd goalkeeper, so she is not better than Spencer and the other one is non eligible
as not English but I am sure she would be an asset to the GBR team in 2012. Here is a non exhaustive list of 1990 players, I wish the FA would have a proper list on its website.

Arsenal : Little, Quantrill
Everton : Hinnigan
Chelsea :
Leeds :  Allen
Sunderland :
Doncaster : Weston
Blackburn
Millwall
Watford
Birmingham : Harrop
Nottingham
Bristol

Funnily enough, someone who could have been useful at left back is Georgie Giddings born in  1990.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: samtom on July 22, 2010, 07:38:40 PM
Cresswell 1990-Forest Ladies.Played 2 games in last years Final Qualifying round.Giddings very good player.Playing in the Usa.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 23, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
I think one reason behind the relatively small pool of players who are deemed good enough to play for England is fitness.
From the U15 to the seniors, it is a prerequisite to be extremely fit. I would even bet, it is more proeminent than technical skills in the evaluation process. One girl who played in the Euro 2009 said the main difference between Germany and England was fitness.
This is right in the way that there is at least 10  times factor between the intensity of WPL game  and an international one. U19 Euro game is about 3 times the basic level, U20 4 times with Champions League games against German teams going to level 6 or 7. As long as technical skill is not a second class citizen, I believe this is the right way to have superfit players especially as England coaches don't seem to like rotating during tourneys.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Eurycantha on July 24, 2010, 09:00:04 AM
I think one reason behind the relatively small pool of players who are deemed good enough to play for England is fitness.

Sylvain, I agree, but another point imho is:
link to www.fff.fr on Friday 11 September 2009, French U17 coach Paco Rubio:
http://www.fff.fr/selections/fem17ans/actualite/530405.shtml
Les 17 ans allemandes ont-elles le même profil de jeu que leurs aînées, sacrées hier en Finlande ?
"C'est pratiquement le même système de jeu, avec trois attaquantes, une "10" et deux "6". Les équipes allemandes ont peu de points faibles et les remplaçantes ont les mêmes qualités techniques et athlétiques que les titulaires.

From the U15 to the seniors, it is a prerequisite to be extremely fit. I would even bet, it is more proeminent than technical skills in the evaluation process. One girl who played in the Euro 2009 said the main difference between Germany and England was fitness.

That's not only the opinion of the abovementioned English U19 player, but also the opinion of among others Swiss U17 coach Walter Späni, Dutch U15, U16 and U17 coach Maria van Kortenhof, Dutch U19 coach Hesterine de Reus and Spanish U17 coach Vilda Sr

Another point might be as you wrote: "From the U15 to the seniors", Germany has started with her U15
in 2003 (winning a double match against the Netherlands with 6-0 and 1-0, in the German squad among
others today's German A-internationals Babett Peter and Fatmire Bajramaj); England has started her U15
in 2007  and France still doesnot have an U15. The German U15 has played over 30 international matches,
England U15 (as far as I know) just 10 matches, of which six against Germany
The results:
11-04-07   Buckinghamshire   England   England   Germany   0-0HT   0-2FT
13-04-07   Buckinghamshire   England   England   Germany   1-1HT   2-2FT

16-04-08   Bisham Abbey   England   England   Germany   0-1HT   1-4FT
18-04-08   Bisham Abbey   England   England   Germany   1-0HT   1-1FT

12-08-09   Worms   Germany   Germany   England   3-0HT   7-0FT
14-08-09   Ingelheim   Germany   Germany   England   3-0HT   5-1FT

Until today I have registered 11 European countries with an U15 (alphabetical): Belgium, Denmark, England,
Germany, Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Scotland, Sweden and Wales. Finland, France, Italy, Spain
and Switzerland among others still don't have an U15. Very recently Switzerland has decided to form an U16!

This is right in the way that there is at least 10  times factor between the intensity of WPL game  and an international one. U19 Euro game is about 3 times the basic level, U20 4 times with Champions League games against German teams going to level 6 or 7. As long as technical skill is not a second class citizen, I believe this is the right way to have superfit players especially as England coaches don't seem to like rotating during tourneys.

And I don't think that the English and French players during the WWC U20 in Germany were "superfit"!

One last point: the way of preparation to a WWC:
Germany U20 has played against Sweden U23 (2-1), England U23 (1-0), Norway U23 (0-0), USA U20 (1-1),
unfortunately not against England U20 in April 2010 due to the Icelandic vulcano, South Korea U20 (3-0),
USA U20 (3-1) and Japan U20 (1-2).

I can understand Jean-Michel Degrange saying: “The group is quite open, knowing that the best two team qualify for the quarter-finals. Nevertheless, I think Germany are a step in front of us, especially when I see their warm up program. Regarding the other two opponents, Costa Rica and Colombia, we do not have much information at the moment.  But in my opinion, these are teams we can beat."

The English and French U20 (and also the Swedish and Swiss U20) didnot play as many games as Germany
and I think that the English squad of these four still have had the most preparation time (in La Manga).

Swedish point of view after the Euros 2009 in Finland
link to www.svenskfotboll.se:
http://svenskfotboll.se/arkiv/kronikor/2009/en-kronika/
google translation:
My recipe for approaching Germany are :
1st Elite Bet in previous age ( in clubs ) . It is not ugly to want to be good , and better than their friends .
2nd Work out more in the earlier age .
3rd More caps for junior national teams .
4th Work out more in the top clubs ( and Ettan Damallsvenskan ) .
5th Send Damallsvenska coaches to study in Germany .
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on July 24, 2010, 04:57:08 PM
I think it is also a question of numbers. We have about  50 000 players in France while it is more than a million in Germany. We can't really compete with those numbers. Changing the French mentality towards women football is a very long process even inside the FFF.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Eurycantha on July 24, 2010, 05:20:17 PM
I think it is also a question of numbers. We have about  50 000 players in France while it is more than a million in Germany. We can't really compete with those numbers. Changing the French mentality towards women football is a very long process even inside the FFF.

I agree and therefor I think what Paco Rubio said is true: "Mais c'est assez logique avec dix fois plus de licenciées dans cette catégorie. Nous faisons de belles choses avec nos moyens. Nous nous rapprochons de l'Allemagne. Les filles ont de moins de moins peur de cette équipe et finiront par la battre."
Title: From the FIFA technical report Germany 2010
Post by: Sylvain on September 09, 2010, 03:50:20 PM
Outstanding players

• 4 MOORE Jade: good with the ball,
active in attack and defence, powerful,
plays with her head up
• 9 DUGGAN Toni: good with her back to
goal, aggressive and a winner

Key points:

• Basic formation 4-2-3-1
• Deep defensive block
• Attacks through the middle
• Well organised at set pieces (defending corner
kicks, free kicks, special throw-in routines)
• Dangerous at set pieces (attacking corner
kicks, free kicks, special throw-In routines)
• Long-range shots
• Strong, hard-working players


Interesting points. The whole report is there and as usual it is an excellent read.

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/developing/technicaldevelopment/technicalwomenreport.html
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on September 10, 2010, 01:03:03 AM
U20 WC playing for the senior team

2002 Williams Bassett A Scott, capped but not in recent squad Champ Yorston Wright Mc Dougall Maggs Westwood Hickmott Asante total 10/18

2008 Houghton Rafferty Buet Bradley  Clarke capped but not in recent squad Dowie R Williams 8/21

2010 0/21 so far but some are likely for example Flaherty Duggan Carter or Bronze
Title: Duo called up to England camp
Post by: Sylvain on December 03, 2013, 03:15:49 PM
Sunderland forward Keira Ramshaw and winger Rebekah Bass have been selected for the forthcoming England Women’s U20 training camp.
 

The nineteen years olds will join up with the rest of the squad at St George’s Park from 11th – 12th December
 

Everyone at SAFC Ladies would like to wish Keira and Bekki the best of luck.

http://www.sunderlandwfc.co.uk/swfc_102.htm

So there is a U20 camp coming soon, 2014 World Cup  looming large.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: bilbobaggins on December 03, 2013, 04:40:10 PM
Rebekah Bass is a strong player, but you have seen her play sylvain.
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Sylvain on December 04, 2013, 08:05:49 AM
Rebekah Bass is a strong player, but you have seen her play sylvain.
Probably once or twice. I don't remember her in the middle of though.
Title: Mo Marley's U20 World Cup preparations under way
Post by: Sylvain on January 07, 2014, 11:14:35 AM
Mo Marley has started preparations for the FIFA Women’s U20 World Cup by pulling together an England squad for a two-day training camp at St. George’s Park.

Her U19 side qualified for next year’s tournament by finishing runners-up in the Euros in the summer.

And Head Coach Marley has called upon nine of those players who helped the Young Lions win a silver medal, including the captain, Sherry McCue.

The U20 World Cup will take place in Canada between 5-24 August.

Before then, England will attempt to qualify for next year’s Euro Finals (15-27 July) and they will take on Finland, Denmark and Serbia in the Elite Qualifying Round next April, with the top-placed team in the group progressing.

Training camp squad:

Goalkeepers
Sophie Harris (Arsenal), Megan Walsh (Everton)
Defenders
Felicity Gibbons (Watford – on loan at Gillingham), Martha Harris (Notts County), Georgia Mays (Watford), Meaghan Sargeant (Notts County)
Midfielders
Sherry McCue (Aston Villa), Emily Roberts (Notts County), Jess Sigsworth (Doncaster Rovers Belles), Katie Wilkinson (Birmingham City)
Forwards
Freda Ayisi (Arsenal), Rebekah Bass (Sunderland), Hannah Blundell (Chelsea), Beth Donoghue (Liverpool), Beth England (Doncaster Rovers Belles), Melissa Lawley (Birmingham City), Nikita Parris (Everton), Keira Ramshaw (Sunderland)

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/womens/u20s/2013/dec/training-camp-squad-st-georges-park-sherry-mccue-mo-marley
Title: England squad named for Women's U20 World Cup
Post by: sylvain on July 01, 2014, 12:24:01 PM
Mo Marley has named her England squad for the FIFA Women’s U20 World Cup which will be staged in Canada in August.

Seventeen of the 21 players helped the Young Lions finish runners-up to France at last year’s U19s Euros, while Arsenal’s Leah Williamson and Everton’s Gabrielle George starred at the U17s Euros just before Christmas.

There is also room for Birmingham City forward Jess Carter and Aston Villa goalkeeper Caitlin Leach.

World Cup schedule

v South Korea, Wednesday 6 August
v Mexico, Saturday 9 August
v Nigeria, Wednesday 13 August

Every squad member has previously represented England at youth level and ten of them have featured in every League game for their club so far this season across FA WSL 1 and FA WSL 2.

England have been drawn in Group C alongside South Korea (who they will face on 6 August), Mexico (9 August) and Nigeria (13 August).

The last time England reached an U20 World Cup was in 2010, when they faced opposition from Mexico and Nigeria, and six members of that squad – Gemma Bonner, Lucy Bronze, Demi Stokes, Jade Moore, Jordan Nobbs and Toni Duggan – have since gone on to earn senior team recognition.

The seniors are next in action on Sunday 3 August, when they take on Sweden at Hartlepool United's Victoria Park. Tickets are priced at £5 for adults and £2.50 for concessions and can be purchased by calling 01429 272 584 (option 2) or via TheFA.com's ticketing page.

England's U20 World Cup squad in full

Goalkeepers
Lizzie Durack (Everton), Caitlin Leach (Aston Villa), Megan Walsh (Everton)

Defenders
Gabrielle George (Everton), Martha Harris (Liverpool), Aoife Mannion (Birmingham City), Meaghan Sargeant (Birmingham City), Ellie Stewart (Liverpool), Paige Williams (Everton)

Midfielders
Jade Bailey (Arsenal), Sherry McCue (Aston Villa), Jess Sigsworth (Doncaster Rovers Belles), Abbey-Leigh Stringer (Aston Villa), Leah Williamson (Arsenal), Katie Zelem (Liverpool)

Forwards
Hannah Blundell (Chelsea), Jess Carter (Birmingham City), Natasha Flint (Manchester City), Mel Lawley (Birmingham City), Beth Mead (Sunderland), Nikita Parris (Everton).

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/womens/u20s/2014/jul/fifa-world-cup-squad-canada
Title: Re: England Under-20
Post by: Mackem Steve on July 01, 2014, 02:28:07 PM
Congrats to all and obviously from a personal point of view Meado, deserves to be picked. Go smash it in Canada girls!  ;D

Rebekah Bass is a strong player, but you have seen her play sylvain.
Probably once or twice. I don't remember her in the middle of though.

She plays on the right wing for us, although i noticed her and Keira Ramshaw changed sides a couple of times throughout the match on Saturday against Yeovil. Very pacy and can get past people well, maybe needs to work a little more on her delivery though if i want to pick a fault. Glad to have her at SAFC though.