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Re: England scouts
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2012, 03:27:35 AM »
It is also down to the clubs to nominate players for international selection and not just down to scouts..the under 19 England 2 game camp shows a far mix.  As for  our cesrtia freind ur very anti centre of exc but take a great interest in the coe forums.....how many girls from ur club did u try and deter from this years sunder land trials?? To say ur player Zn is the best I've ever seen is a bit over the top...do u not think staying with ur club and not a centre of excellence where she can progress to much bigger things is the right choice..also why would centre squads want to play grassroots teams...at the end of the day ..everybody trials those that are good enough get in..those who are not ready get more time at grassroots to progress. There are those that slip thru the netand missed and there are some very good players at grassroots and these players resurface on the radar..I was a centre critic

to start with but there is method in the madness and every dad and mum believe
there daughter should be in..I was on--all I would say is keep in contact with the centres invite them down to your games speak to the centre directors etc...

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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2012, 07:33:49 AM »
It is also down to the clubs to nominate players for international selection and not just down to scouts..the under 19 England 2 game camp shows a far mix.  As for  our cesrtia freind ur very anti centre of exc but take a great interest in the coe forums.....how many girls from ur club did u try and deter from this years sunder land trials?? To say ur player Zn is the best I've ever seen is a bit over the top...do u not think staying with ur club and not a centre of excellence where she can progress to much bigger things is the right choice..also why would centre squads want to play grassroots teams...at the end of the day ..everybody trials those that are good enough get in..those who are not ready get more time at grassroots to progress. There are those that slip thru the netand missed and there are some very good players at grassroots and these players resurface on the radar..I was a centre critic

to start with but there is method in the madness and every dad and mum believe
there daughter should be in..I was on--all I would say is keep in contact with the centres invite them down to your games speak to the centre directors etc...
I'm not anti CoE at all but I am interested in the whole system. I think they're a great idea in principle and probably the best way to progress depending where you sre in the country. As for the player I mentioned, what's wrong with me saying she's the best player I've seen? There might well be better players out there in CoE's, I don't know, the clue is in the 'best I've seen' bit. As for 'bigger and better things' the player in question has gone into international football so I don't see your point there to be honest.
And as for deterring players from trialling, are you for real? The club has never done that. What benefit would these girls have had going to a centre for 1 season rather than taking the plunge in senior football like they have done? And taken to it quite well so far.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2012, 09:13:27 AM »
I take your points...we agree to disagree...maybe times will change with the whole CEO good and bad....I'm glad ur daughter has stepped into the college acdamey as has mine...I'm glad the centre has worked for us ...and have travelled all over the uk playing some excellent centre squads

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 09:16:45 AM »
I take your points...we agree to disagree...maybe times will change with the whole CEO good and bad....I'm glad ur daughter has stepped into the college acdamey as has mine...I'm glad the centre has worked for us ...and have travelled all over the uk playing some excellent centre squads


All good mate. Is she in a college up here? Hope she has a good season ;-)
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2012, 09:25:42 AM »
Thanks and to u...were down south ...football 24/7 with the acdamey set up that I'm hugely impressed with.

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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2012, 09:32:58 AM »
Thanks and to u...were down south ...football 24/7 with the acdamey set up that I'm hugely impressed with.
Yeah I know what you mean, 9 hours a week training with college, game on a Wednesday, and 2 nights a week with her club. Hectic but she loves it
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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2012, 11:01:38 AM »
How big is Girls College football? Are there any / many Girls College leagues, or do they play in county leagues?

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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2012, 11:23:51 AM »
How big is Girls College football? Are there any / many Girls College leagues, or do they play in county leagues?

I didn't know much about it till recently but there are some good players and teams out there. I would imagine there will be a lot of CoE players currently playing in sports college teams as it gives them access to top quality training through the week alongside their academic studies. My daughters college, Gateshead, has a specialist girls football academy and they take part in a league of 12 teams from the north of england, including Lancashire, Yorkshire and Humberside. I think there's an equivalent down south as well. There's also a national cup as well as a British Colleges team.
I would imagine a lot of top flight players have come through this route. I know Gateshead have had a few in the past like Jill Scott, Demi Stokes and Keira Ramshaw.
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2012, 06:22:16 PM »
We had an England scout plus the England U17 manager at the Chelsea game today .

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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2012, 02:43:02 PM »
There was an England scout at the U17's Stoke v Blackburn match on Sat. It was a shame that the pitch was so bad that it was hard to play any good football on it !

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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2012, 04:13:10 PM »
Did they trouble breathing that far North?

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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2012, 05:10:58 PM »
Ha, no but he did say he liked Arsenals new dark blue away kit ... I didn't have the heart to put him right.  : ) :)

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2012, 09:31:24 AM »
I understand that the FA are now holding an U17's talent camp in a few weeks time? Have they realised that the current process has failed the players moving up through the C of E system over the last year and a half?
However I have also been told that each centre can only send one player (who has not been to a previous England trial) to the 4 day camp. Although I have also been told that one club is sending 4 or 5 players - not sure whether this is correct? Anyone have any more info on this?

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2012, 09:45:20 AM »
Yep camp is on- but they have asked for the younger bracket of players at that level 15 etc about to turn 16- those who are 16 at mo etc- have been overlooked for the younger bracket - its not just one from any club either

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2012, 10:38:58 AM »
I guess my comment on last years older U17's being overlooked continues then ! Such a shame as there are a number of very good players being missed.
Strange how we all seem to get passed bits of information - it would be so nice to get actual plans an feedback on what is going on on the FA website for instance. But I guess that's not how the game works ?

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2012, 11:00:14 AM »
the fa running of the coe and enland camps all seem disjointed..still awaiting round 2 draw for u17 national cup that should of been at least a month ago...only hope thou they do the same for a u19 camp with the younger girls getting a chance- but then pigs may fly

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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2012, 11:06:41 PM »
Did they trouble breathing that far North?

Spotted at Lincoln v Sheff Utd fixture last week without any BA equipment ;D

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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2012, 09:06:36 AM »
the fa running of the coe and enland camps all seem disjointed..still awaiting round 2 draw for u17 national cup that should of been at least a month ago...only hope thou they do the same for a u19 camp with the younger girls getting a chance- but then pigs may fly
Fortunately the U19/20/23 setup seems a lot more professional and transparent. Players who are doing well in the Womens Leagues (WSL or WPL) usually get their chance. Unlike the U15/17 setup which is incestuously linked with the self-serving and entirely non-transparent CoE network. You could be England's next Houghton but if you attend the wrong Academy you won't be invited to the party until you start playing Senior football.

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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2013, 09:57:06 AM »
Speaking of England scouts, this is an old anecdote from last season.
I went to a game and the scout watched an england hopeful and gave feedback after the game to her coach.  Suffice to say, I was amazed by the recommandation that I heard and wondered what the * are those selection criteria.
It does confirm all that I heard about England camp trying to erase individual identity from players.

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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2013, 04:01:45 PM »
Speaking of England scouts, this is an old anecdote from last season.
I went to a game and the scout watched an england hopeful and gave feedback after the game to her coach.  Suffice to say, I was amazed by the recommandation that I heard and wondered what the * are those selection criteria.
It does confirm all that I heard about England camp trying to erase individual identity from players.

Care to expand??