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Sylvain

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Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« on: September 26, 2011, 12:56:27 PM »
From the forum's Norway section :

Norway are 9th in the new UEFA ranking ahead of this week's matches, as Kolbotn's semi-final season is wiped from the slate. The Austrians, who are constantly given kind draws due to the uncompetitive state of their league, sneak 3 points ahead.

This season's results, added together with the 4 preceding ones, determines starting positions in the 2013/14 Champions League.

The 2008-2012 ranking is as follows:

1 (=) Germany 70.67
2 (=) France 66
3 (+1) Russia 53
4 (-1) Sweden 50
5 (=) England 37.5
6 (+1) Italy 36
7 (-1) Denmark 30
8 (+2) Austria 25
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9 (-1) Norway 22.5
10 (+3) Czech Republic 22
11 (=) Spain 21.5
12 (-3) Iceland 19.5
13 (-1) Belgium 18

Two points are awarded for each match win, with an extra point for winning the two-legged tie. Leagues with two teams represented average the point sum by the two teams.


England 2nd Champions League place is safe for the next  3 seasons but Arsenal and Bristol must avoid slipping up early and same in next year's competition.
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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 09:09:54 PM »
Austria keep their 8th spot, but Czech Republic are 1 point closer as Praha got a draw away at Limassol. Spain should go into 9th just 1.5 points behind Austria if Rayo also win at home against PK-35.

Norway fall to 12th, but at least lose the season when Kolbotn got less points than Sparta Praha and Neulengbach because they were seeded into a pool with Brøndby and Lyon.
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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 09:18:00 PM »
Arf I need to check my file,got Norway at 24.500 number 10 Austria 28.000 Czech 26.000

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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 09:25:26 PM »
Actually, my error. They should be 11th once Rayo gets through against PK-35. Spain are now on 23.5, 0.5 behind Norway.

I agree on the other numbers too.
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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 10:44:36 AM »
Looks like Brondby defeat's might cost Denmarl as week as they are now straight in the battle for the 7th and 8th place  :o

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 06:55:48 PM »
Looks like Brondby defeat's might cost Denmarl as week as they are now straight in the battle for the 7th and 8th place  :o

Yeah...far out in the future though. We're probably talking about 2014/15 before it has an impact and by that time they could have changed the rules.
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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 12:29:11 PM »
England 2nd Champions League place is safe for the next  3 seasons but Arsenal and Bristol must avoid slipping up early and same in next year's competition.
Oh dear, Bristol loosing in the first round and Arsenal only drawing is not helping.
England cannot really afford a second season with early  elimination in 2012/13.

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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 03:28:43 PM »
Lucky Austria gets 2 team in 2013/14  :o I am very curious to see how far the 2nd Austrian team will go.

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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 08:30:30 PM »
Lucky Austria gets 2 team in 2013/14  :o I am very curious to see how far the 2nd Austrian team will go.

The 2nd Austrian team might possibly be the worst of the entire lot. (Even though Neulengbach didn't do too badly against Malmö today.)

My calculations (double check please?)

1 Germany 78.17 (2)
2 France 74 (1)
3 Russia 60 (1)
4 Sweden 59 (2)
5 England 42.5 (1)
6 Italy 39.5
7 Denmark 36.5 (1)
8 Austria 28
9 Spain 27.5
10 Czech Republic 26
11 Norway 24.5
12 Belgium 20
13 Iceland 20
14 Kazakhstan 19
15 Belarus 16.5
16 Scotland 15.5 (up 8 places!)
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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 09:34:52 AM »
I have the same points except for France 74.5 with 15+13+17+18+11.5.
I have just emailed UEFA asking for them to update the website the same way they do for the men's competition  :P
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Re: Champions League 2013/14
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 09:52:12 AM »
I have the same points except for France 74.5 with 15+13+17+18+11.5
I have just emailed UEFA asking for them to update the website the same way they do for the men's competition  :P

Thanks for double check. Yours is right: Lyon 13 (3+5+5), PSG 10 (3+5+2).
Haha we can dream eh?  :P
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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 11:27:07 PM »
A few teams already qualified for the 2013/14 edition:
Ldb Malmo, Arsenal, Thor/Ka, Zhytlobud-1 Kharkiv Ki  Klasvik and Crusaders stikers.

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Arsenal retain title, Tyresö earn bow
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 09:34:33 AM »
Arsenal LFC made it nine English titles in a row in a weekend of contrasting fortunes for teams in midweek European action, while Tyresö FF have booked a debut for next season.

Arsenal LFC made it nine English title in a row on Sunday ahead of their UEFA Women's Champions League round of 32 second leg against FC Barcelona, while there were mixed fortunes for the two former semi-finalists facing early exits.

Full European women's league results and standings

Unbeaten Arsenal knew the FA WSL title was theirs even before their penultimate game against Doncaster Rovers Belles LFC as the only side that could catch them, fellow European challengers Birmingham City LFC, were held 2-2 at Bristol Academy WFC earlier on Sunday. Before beating Doncaster 3-2, Arsenal defender Stephanie Houghton – whose team lead Barcelona 3-0 prior to Thursday's home leg – told ESPN: "The girls have been immense this year and we have so much strength in depth, [manager] Laura Harvey has been able to freshen things up for each game."

Birmingham do have the consolation of knowing the point all but mathematically confirms a second European campaign next season, as with one game to go they are three points ahead of Everton LFC with a superior goal difference of ten. Meanwhile, the team Birmingham visit on Wednesday holding a 2-0 lead, ASD CF Verona, continued their disappointing start to the season as they were held 1-1 at home by AC Chiasiellis for a second draw in as many Serie A games.

Like Verona, Brøndby IF are former semi-finalists going into a home second leg 2-0 down, but they warmed up for the visit of Stabæk FK by beating BK Skjold 9-3 to make it eight wins out of eight. Stabæk also had a happy weekend, beating Amazon Grimstad FK 1-0 to close the gap to Lillestrøm SK to one point with five games left as the Norwegian leaders lost 2-1 at Arna-Bjørnar Fotball. Arna-Bjørnar are one further point behind, as are Stabæk's fellow European entrants Røa IL, 7-0 winners against bottom side FL Fart.

In Germany, two teams with five European titles between them were matched and it was the side not involved this season – three-time winners 1. FFC Frankfurt – who won 2-1 at 1. FFC Turbine Potsdam with a last-gasp goal by Fatmire Bajramaj against her old club. VfL Wolfsburg, who won their debut European game 5-1 at RTP Unia Racibórz in midweek, triumphed 3-0 at FF USV Jena and have the only remaining 100% record.

Sweden’s representatives WFC Malmö and Göteborg FC both look set to advance to the last 16 but only one are assured entry next season. That spot was clinched by Malmö last week and joining them will be ambitious Tyresö FF, whose 6-0 defeat of two-time European champions Umeå IK left them out of reach of Göteborg. Malmö retain their two-point lead with four games left, defeating Piteå IF 3-1.

Meanwhile, reigning European champions Olympique Lyonnais matched their 7-0 midweek win at PK-35 Vantaa by beating Toulouse FC by the same scoreline. Incredibly, their four competitive fixtures this season have yielded 30 unanswered goals.

http://www.uefa.com/women/news/newsid=1868622.html

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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 03:55:45 PM »
Glasgow City and Brum out but Arsenal to make the next round....

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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 09:59:38 AM »
See wikipedia for the latest update for the 2013-14 edition :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_UEFA_Women%27s_Champions_League

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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 10:41:26 PM »
These are the rankings I have for the qualifying round:
- minor calculation mistakes should occur


Pot 4:

Mng 0
Alb 0
Lat 0
Mlt 0
Mld 0.166
Nir 0.833
Tur (Konak) 1
FYR Mkd 1
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Pot 3

Est 1.66
Irl 1.8 (for Raheny)
Svk 2.4 (Slovan Bratislava 7.4)
Wal 2.655
Por 2.8 (Ouriense)
Slv 4.28
Lit 5.85
Cro 5.985
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Pot 2

Far 6.618
Isr 8.141
Blr Q 8.245
Hol 8.64
Ser 8.9 (for Spartak...)
Bul 9.16
Ukr 9.29
Fin 10.26
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Pot 1

Bos 11.275
Hun 12.595
Rom13.515
Cyp 14.970
Gre 16.61
Sch 17.555
Pol 19.885 (Avoid QR if one team less than last year participate)
Sco 23.215 (Avoid QR if 2 more teams than last year participate...Lux and Georgia or Azer?; or if 1-2 teams less than last year)
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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2012, 12:06:12 AM »
Tough race for seeded spots.

4 out of 6 will be seeded.

Glasgow
Tyresö
Birmingham
Unia R.
Italian runner up
Russian runner up

Lilleström will not be seeded.

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2012, 10:13:24 PM »
Points for these teams:

Glasgow 23.2
Birmingham 20.5+ (Arsenal have 5pts almost in the bag now, should be seeded)
Tyresö 19.5+ (I expect Lyon and Göteborg to win their matches, so Swedish teams should get around ~5pts - which would give 21pts for Tyresö)
Unia R. 19.9
Italian runner up - Tavagnacco 17.2, Bardolino 31.2, Brescia 12.3 (+ whatever points they'll pick up, not many)
Russian runner up - Zorkiy 26.3, Ryazan1 6.6, Izmailovo 16.6

Glasgow are guaranteed a seed if they pass qualifying round, I think. Arsenal need to take 16pts for Birmingham to pass Glasgow. (2.765 difference * 3 (club part of nat coefficient) * 2 (2 teams per nation))

The already seeded teams, for clarity:
GER winner
GER 2nd (unless Freiburg qualifies)
FRA winner
FRA 2nd (barring massive league upsets)
Arsenal
Malmö
Sparta CZE
Rossiyanka
Torres
Brøndby
Hjørring
Neulengbach 37.2

Sparta could still lose the league, mind. Tied the 1st league final.

I have Limassol at 15.960 points. That doesn't matter much though, just for checking. I also have Peamount (Irl) at 7.805 though, so pot 2, pushing Slovakia down.

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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2013, 09:10:57 PM »
Glasgow 23.2
Birmingham 20.5+ (Arsenal have 5pts almost in the bag now, should be seeded)
Tyresö 19.5+ (I expect Lyon and Göteborg to win their matches, so Swedish teams should get around ~5pts - which would give 21pts for Tyresö)
Unia R. 19.9
Italian runner up - Tavagnacco 17.2, Bardolino 31.2, Brescia 12.3 (+ whatever points they'll pick up, not many)
Russian runner up - Zorkiy 26.3, Ryazan1 6.6, Izmailovo 16.6

So if:
Sparta Praha
Zorkiy, and
Rossiyanka

qualify through their respective leagues, AND

Glasgow, and
Unia Raciborz

qualify through UCL-qualifications, THEN

Tyresö will be unseeded.

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Re: Champions League 2013/14 the road to Lisboa
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2013, 07:26:42 PM »
Indeed Tyreso stays on 19.5 and must thank Malmo and Goteborg who got nothing in the quarter-finals...while Birmingham thanks Arsenal for those two wins against Torres