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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 04:24:50 PM »
It must be an attacking player because there are like 6 forwards attacking midfield in that squad.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 10:32:04 AM »
Match today, England v Norway at 19.00 (18.00 UK time).
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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 09:52:30 PM »
2-0 for Norway  1 penalty and 1 goal after a center back mistake, the girls gave everything and could have got a draw or a win.
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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 10:36:26 PM »
the full line-up
1 Hill 2 Houghton 3 Hickmott cap 4 Buet 5 Lawrence 6 Davies 7 Susi 8 Williams 9 Davison 10 Dowie 11 Bird
subs 12 Perry 13 Hourihan 14 Dixson 15 Holtham 16 Cantrell 17 Hall 18 Larkin

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2008, 11:15:12 PM »
 The team was organised in 4-2-3-1 with Gem up front and Tats as the target women behind her in midfield.
Susi and Bird on the wing interchanging  position quite frequently. The pressing zone started about 5 yards into the Norwegian half and Lois Fidler who was in the stand was relaying information to Brent Hills about who was in place defensively and who wasn't. The FA also had a cameraman 3 caches 3 medics two old gentlemen and a very pretty brunette from the admin team.
The second half was a lot better than the first because in the first half gemma was isolated up front and support was always slow to arrive. england main threat came from through ball from gem to Dunia but the attacking pattern was more like 3 against 6 defenders. There were also a lot of diffculties to more than 4 passes on the floor because systematicallya long ball would be hit from the back libe or dani hill.
In the end England crated few chances and did not really make the norwegian keeper work.
The penalty was after a good block form a though ball and either dani hill or a defender caught the attackers leg leaving the referee no choice. Keeper guessed the wrong way and the second ball was a center half who missed/underhit  her back pass puting through the striker.

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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2008, 07:05:59 AM »
-Dani Hill a few god save and kicking was good in general, to her debit she missed a cross and it could have been dangerous, very vocal as usual.
-Houghton plays with confidence, you can the quality and why she plays for the seniors, good overlapping on the wing
-Lawrence and Davies dealt very well with all the headers and long balls thrown as them as well one to one situation. The long ball passing option to Dowie or the wingers was used a lot. Lawrence unlucky to gift Norway a goal with a mix up between a header and a back pass to the goalie ( I think she sent both information from the brain to the muscles and it overloaded the nervous system)
-Hickmott a good left foot a few forward runs
-Williams a good player with running on the ball ability, powerful girl
-Buet injured her hand  ??? did miss a few passes in the first half but got better and better in the secong ahlf and finished really strongly doing the damaging run into the defense that are her trademark à la Stevie G. Good fighting spirit to win balls back.
Dowie superb in holding the ball and trying to bring other players in, she was a bit alone to challenge the norwegian girls for headers, body strentgh is superb and and managed to hold off her defenders time and time gain. It's a shame she did not get shooting chances and rarely received the ball while facing the goals.
Susi she had most of England chances with 4 or 5 shots and good runs down the wing, she was switched to playmaker during the game behind Dowie with Gem going on the wing.
Bird worked a lot and very hard for the team a good left foot used it well for a few crosses
Davison, she looked confident after her stint in the US speed and percussion are always there and she managed to create disorder and incertainty in the norwegian defense, two good passes to Susi.

Hall for Bird, brought a lot of energy and run down the wing, a few crosses could have had a goal opportunity at in a 2 vs 3 but pass never reached her.
Dixson for Williams It's obvious she had a very good season with Charlton, the most confident and motivated player on the pithc especialy after the goals wants to do well for the team and asks for the ball.
ball circulation looks better with her in the side as the ball stayed more on the floor.
Cantrell for Dowie she did not get any for like 5 to 10 minutes then showed she is a very god player with a fantastic ball control run and shoot in the middle of a crowded defense.
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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 07:29:31 AM »
In the end England paid for two mistakes as you cannot really do any at that level.
It's part of a learning curve. I think the main problem was the use of the ball as it was mostly won back at about 30 yards form the england defense and the rare opportunity when the ball was won in the Norwegian half, england were very dangerous with Davison and Susi's pace. Mainly the ball was transferred quickly to the forwards but with players from midfield and defense not coming fast enough to help them as the were far away. It was like an worm that was stretched and struggling to regain its normal lentgh. Long basses were also hit a lot after a sequence of 2 or 3 passes while I felt the defenders were not always under pressure.
patient build up from the back with interchange triangle short passing was used sometimes and it proved sucessfull especially in the last 15 were England dominated after being a goal down.
Looking forward to the USA game to see if changes are made in the starting line-up.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2008, 08:53:32 AM »
..lets hope the senior team fare better than the younger ones recently as they prepare to face the Germans tomorrow
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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2008, 02:41:24 PM »
Match today (Thursday): Under-23 England v USA
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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2008, 03:04:14 PM »
7 pm local time here, I expect brent Hills to make a few changes as 4 games in 8 days is a  lot to ask for the girl particularly as the England tactical system ask a lot from them.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2008, 09:51:22 PM »
anyone know the score and match details.?

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2008, 09:55:25 PM »
3-0 USA

You were right, Cardy the us girls were a lot bigger than the British ones.

The team was

Hourihan -houghton lawrence davies hickmott- williams buet- susi davison hall -dowie

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2008, 10:15:26 PM »


thanks for that report on score.  Bad day for the brits then with seniors losing to germany  too.
Strange line up some key players missing, oh well.  Maybe we need to grow some bigger athletes.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2008, 10:30:46 PM »
It's true the physical impact was always gonna be a problem in challenges and 50/50 but a player like Buet did very well and she is not the biggest girl but was tenacious and worked hard.
Some changes were really bizzare though, Katie Holtham has not played yet and she looks strong physically. Rachel Williams has now played  both full games and really struggled against the US midfield so a change could have been useful. The other subs that did not get a game today were bird and hill.
You also wonder why there are only 2 regular center back in that squad  ??? 4 full backs 6 midfield 4 forward s and 2 goalies.

I really like the fact that they tried to play a possession type  game holding the ball as otherwise the USA are not likely to give it back. They were steamrolling England for large chunk of the game.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2008, 05:57:08 AM »
At half time, Kylie Davies was subbed due to concussion Kim Dixson came in and England ended up with the following back 4 : Susi Houghton Lawrence Hickmott, 3 out of 4 moved , no suprise the USA scored like 2 minutes into the second half, while the defense was settling in.
Sophie Perry came for Becky Hall at LB  with Hickmott going to the left wing.
Sian Larkin came on for Gemma Davison at RB with Dunia Susi going up at right wing.
Carla Cantrell then came on For Natasha Dowie straight swap lol
Loads of juggling around. Why Holtham did not come in for the tired Williams is a mystery to me.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2008, 07:43:03 AM »
This is what always seems to happen.  Subs are made and everyone is given a cha nce to play.  I'm not sure they are expected to win any matches but just use the game as a testing ground!

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2008, 08:50:56 AM »
They have Switzerland tomorrow and the last game on Monday. I hope they are gonna change a few player because some are likely to be knackered playing a game every other day.
Shame I won't be there to witness those games but the FA has big team there in term of staff, including a hottie named Caroline  ;D so they will put some reports on their website.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2008, 12:21:13 PM »
I have noted the FA has not updated the result of the USA game on their website.
Maybe they've gone on holidays  ;D

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2008, 06:30:56 PM »


England won 1-0 today (a win at last! ::))  Apparently a Bird shot and deflected in by Dixon.  Not sure who else played or any more details.

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Re: England Under-23
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2008, 06:33:02 PM »
what kinda bird a bluebird ?????