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Offline sbahnhof

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2017, 11:40:33 PM »

More support for Aluko from Lianne Sanderson, in a 5 Live interview:

- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41019789

And Anita Asante:

- https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/england-women-fearful-speaking-out-anita-asante

And Chelsea, to their credit:

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“We commend Eni for coming forward and speaking about her experiences.

“Chelsea Football Club finds any and all forms of discrimination abhorrent and it is imperative that players are supported when coming forward to speak about these issues.”


And credit to Emma Hayes for having principles on this issue. Even this uncritical statement may damage the Chelsea boss's future relationship with the FA.

MP Rosena Allin-Khan has also called for a new inquiry, "when the FA need to be doing all they can to attract young women and people from minority backgrounds into football".

Those players above have also all mentioned they suspect the FA won't allow them to be selected for England again.



We should let Sampson clear his name, I say! It's all very messy at the moment. And the FA haven't even had the decency to release a random video of a meeting where Sampson didn't say "you've been arrested"! That doesn't help the public, or the FA, or Sampson. Cos of the lingering suspicion. :o

So I've been forced to find a video myself. It may or may not be the right one, but definitely a good distraction:

EXHIBIT A: Sampson not being racist in a meeting:
- www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKh2XDVJiM


See?

Also:

Certainly he thinks he's this great comic and its so painfully clear that he isn't, indeed if Bernie Winters had become a football manager he would have been way funnier than Sampson.  Even knowing a person really well it would be unlikely that jokes about Ebola would go down too well.

By an amazing coincidence, Sampson will try to make up for the Euros failure, and get back into the fans' good books, by covering an old Bernie Winters song. Can he be funnier? Not sure, but he's going to sing this before the Russia qualifier:

EXHIBIT B: "There's An Elephant In My Bedroom"
- www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaVrZRJfTBE


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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 09:54:33 PM »
The thing that has really hacked me off about this sorry state of affairs is that here we have two England footballers raising a serious complaint about the management against the top level of women's football. Quite rightly an investigation is held by the senior mangement at the FA, which would be reasonable - in any organisation. Then they decide to have a second investigation by a barrister no less, which appears nothing less than thorough - again this sounds very compliant in most organisations.
Now I am not sure about the first enquiry (as I didn't see anything mentioned), but how on earth can the second enquiry take place by a barrister and find 'no case to answer' when the two footballers making the allocations were NOT ACTUALLY INTERVIEWED by the barrister ???
I have held senior positions in businesses for many years which has required me to conduct numerous HR reviews including some cases such as these and I have never worked for an organisation that would dream of holding an enquiry of this nature without interviewing every party involved. How the hell can you evaluate what has occurred without doing this?
The FA need to move into this century and stop burying their heads in the sand, however, I guess you only get the outcome you can be sure of if you only listen to one side of the argument.


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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 05:52:29 PM »
Gee this is starting to get out of hand now...maybe time for old Marky boy to do the decent thing and go....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4876392/England-Women-boss-Mark-Sampson-faces-fresh-scrutiny.html


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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 08:35:23 AM »
but how on earth can the second enquiry take place by a barrister and find 'no case to answer' when the two footballers making the allocations were NOT ACTUALLY INTERVIEWED by the barrister ???
Did Aluko not say that she would not take part in the independent enquiry, because she didn’t believe it would be done fairly or something?

If I am reading correctly, that enquiry didn’t say Sampson was innocent. It just said that there was no case to answer. If those making the allegations won’t then take part in the enquiry, then there is no case to answer, is there?

I am no fan of Sampson and if he is genuinely guilty, I hope he gets what he deserves, but Aluko’s handling of this whole affair has been terrible and has opened herself wide to accusations of just trying to cause trouble for a coach he doesn’t like

Ebola comment – Bad thing to say. Very insensitive, but not racist. It was a joke in poor taste, regarding a disease. The fact that the disease was in Africa doesn’t make the comment racist!

Arrest comment – Again, not racist! White people get arrested too. Seemingly a video of the meeting do not seem to show him making that comment, which Aluko wasn’t there to hear

“Lazy” comment – Coaches criticize players for being lazy all the time. If you disagree, you ask the coach why he thinks that! Coaches are not there to pamper players!

“Pain in the arse” comment – appears to have been said jovially and the more this goes on, the more it seems to have some accuracy about it!

If a player feels like she has been singled out for bullying and racism, I would expect there to be more than just the things that have been made public, but in trying to win sympathy, you would expect Aluko to go public with some of the worse incidents. If these are among the worse, then I’m afraid I just don’t see a case!

Last night’s comments from her on Twitter just make her look more bitter IMHO, criticizing the players for showing her a lack of respect towards her and calling them selfish!

I wonder how the Chelsea players in that team will feel about playing with her at the weekend?
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Re: Harrassment & bullying in football / Allegations
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 02:33:56 PM »
Well, she has got her way then! BREAKING NEWS: Mark Sampson set to leave as England women's manager

I wonder if Sampson’s preplacement will feel obliged to play Eni and if so, what atmosphere will that create in the team?
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2017, 03:47:09 PM »
BBC reports departure relates to fresh allegations made about his conduct in a previous role!  No doubt if they know that much these allegations will leak out - got to say so far even if true the ebola and arrested comments don't necessarily equate to racism but we will see what comes out in the wash.

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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2017, 05:11:53 PM »
So it seems he's been sacked for inappropriate relationships  with players during his time at Bristol, something the FA had previously investigated years ago and sent him on a safeguarding course over as a result.   Guardian reporter tweeting it's quite a major scandl - if so why did the FA clear him to continue coaching? 

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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2017, 07:51:47 PM »
good riddance to sampson- should never have got the job in the first place. The FA is an ass and always will be-